WTW127: Debunking More of Buttfeld's "Comedy"

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0:00:03 Clip: What's so scary about the woke mob? How often you just don't see them coming. Anywhere you see diversity, equity, and inclusion, you see Marxism and you see woke principles being pushed. Wokeness is a virus more dangerous than any pandemic hands down. The woke monster is here and it's coming for everything.

0:00:33 Clip: Instead of go-go boots, the seductress green M&M will now wear sneakers.

0:00:41 Thomas: Hello and welcome to Where There's Woke. This is episode 127. I'm Thomas. That over there is Lydia. How are you doing?

0:00:46 Lydia: Hi, I needed that break from stupid Buttfeld's disgusting jokes, question mark.

0:00:54 Thomas: I think they legally cannot be described as jokes. I think I think like the jokes Ministry will sue us like that's not sort of like the champagne has to be from the champagne region of France There needs to be a joke region of humans. That's just like this doesn't get to count.

0:00:57 Lydia: Yeah, I think you're right. Exactly, exactly. Yeah. I enjoyed the week off of having to not think about him and how bad this was.

0:01:15 Thomas: We've been in intensive therapy you

0:01:18 Lydia: Truly, truly. But we got to come back to it because I would like to actually close out some of the things that we were talking about last time. We barely the additional 10 minutes.

0:01:26 Thomas: Mean close out the video that we got to three minutes and 58 seconds out of uh 14

0:01:33 Lydia: Yeah Yes, that would be the one.

0:01:33 Thomas: Minutes yeah yeah there's so much more too I'm sure we have some more debunks and uh some more buttfeld man I just I hope that no one I know watches this you know what I mean like I don't know I don'T KNOW I got conservative relatives I don' t I hope they don't watch this it's just just like disgusting. And I know that like often the whole point is to trigger the libs or whatever, but it's also just evil. Like I'm just disgusted by him. It's not like, oh, I'm so offended at whatever. It'S like, this is what you are and what you value. It's just like sad and gross. Yeah. And what you're going to do is be a piece of shit for rich people. He's rich by now, but yeah.

0:02:07 Lydia: You get one life, right? And, like, that's what you want to spend your life doing, especially if you are religious at all. Like, these are actions that you think your God would be pleased with?

0:02:19 Thomas: Jesus would have wanted me to shout insults at an overweight person on TV. That's what Jesus did back then.

0:02:27 Lydia: Question mark? I don't know. Yeah. It's just unbelievable. It's incongruous to what a good life should be.

0:02:35 Thomas: Yeah, they've already heard us say that a million times, but I just can't get over it. But there's more. It's worse. If you thought it couldn't get worse, it does. And what's funny is the video is Gutfeld. This just keeps getting worse. But what he means is like, I don't know, wokeism or some crap, but it really is inaccurate. Almost could be like us posting the video.

0:02:53 Thomas: It just keeps giving us a hard time. It's getting worse, everyone. So that's where we're going to do today. We're going to see how far we can get. I'm not doing another episode on this. So we'll see what it is, is what it is for now. We'll see if we have to come back to it someday. But all right. Thanks so much for listening and supporting patreon.com/where there's woke. If you'd like to support our punching of buttfelds and get your punch, your local buttfeld merch patreon.com/where there's woke. We'll take an annoying break and then be back.

0:03:12 Lydia: No punch your local buttfeld

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0:03:23 Thomas: All right. Well, OK,

0:03:23 Lydia: Okay I don't want you to press play yet

0:03:25 Thomas: I won't press play it.

0:03:25 Lydia: Because where we left off was our commentary about how he can't engage in the actual arguments from this professor he just had to go into straight insults and I wanted to take the time to talk about those those comments from the panel, what the panel was, provide additional context around those clips that his team put together, and then we can go from there. But I really do want to give time to what was being discussed because I think there's some really, really, really great insightful stuff.

0:03:57 Thomas: Should we play that then? Like just that part before he talks to remind people what it was I mean

0:04:03 Clip: I have worked with four- and five-year-olds in schools who have genders that their parents don't want them to have. Parents' rights have suddenly been weaponized against trans and non-binary and two-spirit youth. I want us to get really comfortable with challenging right-wing Christian patriarchy. I want to say things like, you can do work around sexual orientation and gender diversity with children of all ages. And so I want us to think about these conversations in kindergarten. I wanna

0:04:32 Thomas: Obviously heavily edited and selective already

0:04:34 Lydia: Yes. Those are five clips from what was a 90 -minute panel where this professor was one of the panel members. There were three panel members and the moderator. Their name is Dr. J. Wallace Skelton. And apologies, I used they as shorthand for pronouns, but this professor prefers just to be referred to by J. Wallis Skel ton or Dr. Skel ton. So this panel was called Mobilizing Fear and Misinformation, Anti -SOGI, which stands for Sexual Orientation and Gender Identity, and Parental Rights. And the mission, the sort of coalescing theme of this panel. It was the ways in which inaccurate and harmful messaging can be resisted and showcase how prioritizing parental rights, in quotes, within schools, communities, and our society comes at the cost of the rights and well -being of queer and trans youth. I think that's a perfectly reasonable topic for discussion. Really, really important. Skelton's perspective on this is really informed by some stuff that was happening in Saskatchewan. Skelton is a University of Regina professor. And in Saskatchewan, that's where that's located, they had a bill that would disallow students from changing their name or pronouns with their school if they were under 16. So basically putting an age requirement on any sort of differing gender expression, pronoun decisions, name changes.

0:05:56 Thomas: Yeah so a solution in search of a problem that doesn't exist

0:06:00 Lydia: Right, right. So what I want to do is play Skelton's thoughts that are with these clips that Gutfeld's team spliced together, because I think there's some really insightful stuff there. This first one is the context surrounding that first clip. Quote, I have worked with four and five -year -olds in schools who have genders that their parents don't want them to have.

0:06:21 Clip: Sort of take it from a teacher's perspective, because I hear from teachers who are really worried about parents who might have complaints, who might feel like they're not getting enough information. And one of the things that I found really valuable in helping parents and teachers navigate this is if we can recognize that both the teacher and the parent have the child's best interest as their guiding motivation that common ground makes it easier to listen to each other they may have different understandings about what's in the childs best interest but a belief that both adults or both sets of adults are there to create a caring nurturing environment for the child is a a really helpful starting place for those conversations. I also would say, and I say this as a parent and as an educator, having children is a process of letting go. I say that to myself all the time. It's a process of letting go because you're making room for children to be their own people. I have worked with four and five-year-olds in schools who have genders that their parents don't want them to have and I've seen educators make room for those in brilliant brilliant ways and so I think about a kindergarten graduation and the teacher showing up for the photographs and the photographer saying I've got roses for the girls and ties for the boys and the teacher thinking this is not gonna work well and spinning around to the class and saying class there's ties and roses what's gonna make you feel most fancy that's the kind of thing that teachers are doing to create gender-inclusive classrooms and so when a child comes home with a picture that doesn't look like the parents expected the parents can come back and say what happened and the teacher can say completely honestly I gave the children the choice of what's going to make them feel most fancy because our job is to celebrate children and to help them feel safe creating an understanding that we're both working from the child's best interest helps those conversations happen and makes room to learn and listen to each other in it. I am

0:08:38 Thomas: First thing to note this is two years old and it's something that I'm sure virtually no one really saw it's hard to know because it seems like there's at least one comment that's more recent probably from this that's kind of funny there's four total comments

0:08:53 Lydia: Four total comments, 1 ,471 views. Total.

0:08:58 Thomas: Yeah and two of the comments are from the time that are just like normal. The other one is from 12 days ago, which is probably roughly now as we're talking sometime after the Buttfeld segment. And that's obviously not a very friendly comment, but that's it. The main thing, folks, the main thing. As I keep saying, if you're ever trying to talk to a normie or something, and I think we need to try to do this and we need to try if we can spread better ideas. And what we're trying to do here is dissect the bad ideas and kind of inoculate against them mostly the main thing should be who gives a shit like that's the main thing in terms of the public because a lot of people let's be honest are not going to really understand or be all that cool with a professor who doesn't want any pronouns and wants lowercase letters and is talking about this like they're probably on average not going be like that cool cool with this professor. But the most important thing to recognize is that this is not anything like this is the point of it even being seen or heard by anyone except the couple of people who are actually interested in this for what it is, who

0:10:08 Thomas: Are there and who are, you know, whatever it is. The point is propaganda and stirring up hate. And I would love someone to answer me. Why do I I care about a kindergarten class in Canada where they said you can pick a rose or a bowtie or whatever it was, a tie, just stop everything else. We've got a stupid war in Iran. We're killing people. There's a genocide in Israel, you know, with all that stuff. But tell me why, just tell me what, why I should care. By the way, let me modify that. Why should I care about a meeting in which someone said that two years ago, which

0:10:26 Lydia: A tie. Yeah. Yeah,

0:10:43 Thomas: Someone mentioned that in a kindergarten class, a good way to maybe let children, and by the way, even if you want to take the worst examples in quotes, I'll say worse, but like, I always say this, there's people who suck in every movement. I'm not saying this person does, but I'm saying no matter what side of any issue you're on, if the other side wants to, they can find the worst samples and plaster them everywhere to make that seem like that's who the cause is. That happens with every side of every re -argument. So seeing someone you don't like, if this person happens to be someone you don't Like, or someone doesn't like that doesn't disqualify an entire side of an argument for one. And for two, even if this is what he can come up with as like the worst examples of the left, which is something from two years ago in Canada, they're still just saying, let's let the kids be the kids. They're not saying we need to force no gender. We need to for, you know, they'RE not saying that they'RE talking about a lovely story in which a teacher had the thought ahead of time when someone else, by the way, this is all responsive too. This is in response to someone else coming in the classroom and probably innocently enough, but like kind of triggering a gender binary thing that doesn't really need to exist for any reason.

0:11:57 Thomas: I don't know that they're probably had perfectly fine motives, but let's assume they do. They're just innocently like, oh, boys have this, girls have this. That's someone bringing bringing that in to a classroom of kids. And this person is discussing the response to that, which is lovely, which is, hey, kids, pick whichever one you want. That couldn't be less of a big deal. It seems like it's actively the right thing to do, in my opinion. So this entire thing, this entire things is over a meeting from two years ago in which a person said that. I wonder why. Well, it's because the person is overweight and can trigger disgust emotions in MAGA, in conservatives.

0:12:35 Thomas: And then they can continue to turn those disgust emotions into hatred and turn off their critical faculties and just be a mob, a blind mob of hate that will do anything or vote for anything as long as it triggers the lips.

0:12:35 Lydia: How we ended up on this thing from two years ago and talking about J. Wallace Skelton specifically. From what I can tell, I don't know exactly why this happened, but two days before this episode, coverage relating to Skelton kind of blew up on Twitter and everyone piled on to make fun of Dr. Skelton. There were awful, awful things, you know, saying similar things to like Ray Gutfeld, what he says in this episode. People misgendering Skelton a lot. People saying sickos, just horrible, horrible things. And it looks like that's probably the origin of this.

0:13:25 Thomas: Yeah, I mean, there's an army of propagandists who are always trying to find the bad examples to tar a movement with in their mind. I don't even know that this doesn't seem like a particularly bad example of anyone to to me. I'm just saying stuff that will resonate for them.

0:13:40 Lydia: Yeah. And it's just everything that I heard in that clip, I just thought was really lovely.

0:13:48 Thomas: Yeah, that's nice. Yeah.

0:13:48 Lydia: I thought it was a really nice example. And I think the other really, really important thing that I don't understand how any parent could disagree with is that can we go into a space with, and maybe it's not always 100 % right, but can we at least have the starting point that the teacher and the parent are both interested in what's best for the child? Like, that should be our primary objective, regardless if you're a teacher or a parent, right? That we are committed to doing what's best for our kid, and that we're in this together, that we can be a team. And we might disagree about what that means, but that's okay, and we can have those conversations. And I feel reasonable way of approaching all of this that often just gets lost, that it's, you know, my way or the highway when you talk about parental rights. And it's specific to gender identity, oftentimes.

0:14:41 Lydia: Okay, the second clip that they play is parents' rights have suddenly been weaponized against trans and non, yeah, against trans and non -binary and two -spirit youth. But I want to highlight some of the additional information here because I think it's interesting the stuff around that got cut off.

0:14:47 Thomas: Well, that'S just fucking true. We know that.

0:14:59 Clip: Working on two projects at the moment, one of which has been interviewing parents who see themselves as advocates for their two-spirit trans and non-binary young people, thinking about how do we resource parents, how do we support parents, and how do they share their success stories. It's been a really interesting moment to do this in a conversation where parents' rights have suddenly been weaponized against trans and non-binary and two-spirit youth and to say we've done interviews with 70 parents across canada whose rights are not being respected as parents and who see their rights as parents as secondary to their children's rights and how do we ensure that children's rates are being respected because they're real and present and there and not a language of parental rights but I think it's really important we we see this

0:15:47 Lydia: So I thought that was interesting because the thing that they have a problem with is sort of in relation to research that Skelton is doing regarding parents who are supportive and advocating for their kids' rights to pursue whatever identity feels right to them and creating resources to help those parents. So it's like it's almost that they've they're taking the flip side of it and saying like that parents are being disrespected and disregarded, where Skelton is saying, no, no. My research is focused on creating resources to help those parents who want to be supportive and advocate for their kids and help them through this process and be aligned with them, with their identity. It's a small difference, but it is so interesting to me.

0:16:35 Thomas: I mean it's a really interesting area of philosophy and law that if we still had such a thing as a public conversation that was worth anything. I mean that was just worth anything I'd be fascinated to have discussions or to hear debates even with people who are very conservative if it was an actual conversation of like I think I have the right to dictate everything about my kid until you know such and such age and then someone else being like, well, OK, let's examine that, because certainly there's got to be a line, right? If you are beating your kid, you don't have the right to beat your kid. The kid has rights outside of you, right? You don't the right TO kill your kid? Then you try to find the lines of that. It's like an interesting philosophical discussion, because like you do as a parent, you do have certain rights when your kids are not old enough to make a lot of decisions. And as they get older, I think that kind of changes and it might vary in Canada versus the US. It might vary philosophically versus is legally, you know, but there comes a certain age where it's like, well, as they get older and older, they're going to have more rights independent of you. And it's not like they never do. I think they always have some amount of rights independent view, obviously, because they can't be harmed. You know, they have the right to autonomy in certain ways.

0:17:37 Lydia: Well, I mean, the right wing would say that those rights exist before they're even born, right? So, oh,

0:17:40 Thomas: And sure. It's interesting, though, because when you talk about stuff like vaccines and medical procedures and stuff, it's there is an element where you do have to kind of inflict that on them before a certain age, because if you tried to talk your one -year -old into getting a shot, they're just never going to do it, you know? And it's like, there is a certain extent to which your right as a parent, and it's not even maybe your right, it's sort of your ability to make the decisions for them to a certain accent. Yeah. Responsibility and your, and your right to be kind of giving consent on their behalf on certain things.

0:18:06 Lydia: And responsibility to an extent. Right.

0:18:13 Thomas: You know, it could be a tricky area though, you knows, that also has lines though, because Because then you talk about these crazy, you know, Christian people who are like, I'm refusing basic treatments to my kids because I don't believe in it or whatever. And then, from my opinion, I don'T think you should be allowed to do that. I think there should be very little wiggle room in terms of that, because to me, that's just child abuse with a different name.

0:18:13 Lydia: Mm hmm. Mm hmm, right.

0:18:34 Thomas: But it's also I can imagine some tricky like middle areas there. I mean, I know there's like blood transfusions with Jehovah's Witnesses and stuff. And I just don't think you should be allowed to kill your kid because you believe a dumb thing about medicine myself. But anyway, all that is to say, this person actually sounds really reasonable and nice. I can't even, I mean, sometimes there's going to be, they find the straw person to try to embarrass the woke movement. And sometimes I'm like, yeah, that person kind of, I don't really like that person. Nothing this person has said is at all unreasonable. It's just their identity and their appearance that people have a problem with.

0:19:06 Thomas: From what I can tell, I haven't heard anything that they've said that's anything.

0:19:10 Lydia: Well, let's give this one a try. Their clip three that they did. I want us to get really comfortable with challenging right wing Christian patriarchy.

0:19:18 Thomas: Am I going to disagree with that?

0:19:19 Lydia: Yeah.

0:19:23 Clip: This as what it is which is a signaling we're going to pay attention to Christian values and I'm going to circle back to agency for a moment if you are a right-wing Christian and particularly if you're a right wing Christian man you're probably white and your power comes from being able to say I know how this works men go out and make money women stay home and have babies my children will dress the way they should and they will have more babies and then we'll take over the school board so that we can have what we want happening in schools happen in schools that last part really is happening at about that speed when you say actually people have agency and rights and ability to define themselves and put forward who they are in the world you're challenging that entire structure of domination which is why they are interested in saying not possible or making it not possible I want us to get really comfortable with challenging right-wing Christian patriarchy right as it makes more possibilities for more people and to name it what it is what is the

0:20:33 Thomas: Yeah, I can't imagine what the problem with that is.

0:20:37 Lydia: A hundred percent. I mean and it's again, this person is not saying you are not allowed to be Christian. You are not allowed to be right wing in your political beliefs. Right.

0:20:43 Thomas: Yeah you can't have a gender you can have it they're not saying any of that.

0:20:48 Lydia: They are saying that that as a system is designed to prevent people from going out and making choices for themselves because it threatens that system. It's an interesting conversation and it's being weaponized in this regard to basically say like, oh, this is anti -Christian. You know, this person doesn't like Republicans. This person doesn'T like Christians. And some of that might be true.

0:21:13 Lydia: I don't know. But in context of this conversation, that's not what they're saying. It's a university in Canada has this thing called Public Square. Yes. Yeah. And so this was an event. Right.

0:21:16 Thomas: What is this event SFU public square? This isn't like your teachers discussing what they're doing to your kids. It's a university debate or not debate but public square implies that there are going to be different views here and there, but who knows? But yeah, it's a panel. It's a discussion. Okay. From two years ago in Canada. Why does Buttfeld even give a shit about this? Yeah. But I know why he does. I'm asking that rhetorically. And I also mean, this is what I would try to communicate with anyone who cares about this.

0:21:44 Lydia: Yep, from two years ago. And in Canada, with 1400 views online. Right, right. Right. Yeah.

0:22:02 Thomas: Again, nothing gets me more frustrated than that time there was the Supreme Court case about the trans athletes or something. I'm kind of blanking on which one it is. They're like, well, there's one state where they found one athlete. Just like all of the, that's just, that was a perfect microcosm of the fucking nonsense. You know, the brain rot that has taken over MAGA because they're so propagandistic and they just, all they do is just stir up hate against another. And the fact that they were up at the Supreme court and they're like well, we found there's one trans athlete who wasn't even really good they're just like middle of the pack athlete you know having fun in the state yeah

0:22:40 Lydia: Nuts. But don't you remember it was hundreds of medals have been stolen from athletes because of trans people. 800 and what? 900 medals?

0:22:44 Thomas: Oh I remember I listened to where there's woke yeah oh

0:22:51 Lydia: The last two clips, they happen close enough together in the panel discussion that I'll be able to just tell you one timestamp. But these two clips from Gutfeld are the first one. I want to say things like you can do work around sexual orientation and gender diversity with children of all ages. And then the last And so I want us to think about these conversations in kindergarten, which is always going to be like triggering for parental rights people because they think five -year -old and you're trying to turn my kid gay or trans at five. That's not what's happening. Anyway.

0:23:19 Clip: Misinformation and how do you say to clear so I actually want to say that it's not my job to spread the misinformation I don't want to give the misinformation airtime so I want to actually give the facts airtime I want to say things like you can do work around sexual orientation and gender diversity with children of all ages you can create inclusive safe classrooms for children of all ages and so I wanted us to think about these conversations in kindergarten and the misinformation is what's happening and what's actually happening is we're saying there's many ways to be a girl there's many ways to be a boy, there's many ways to be both, there are many ways to be neither, you're going to figure out what's right for you and we're going to follow your lead. That's the messaging. The messaging is things like your body belongs to you and you get to make choices about your body except in moments of safety. So we're teaching people that they can say no to having other people touch them. We're teaching teaching people that they need to check in before they touch someone else that's again what's happening with young children uh again we've talked a lot about how parents and teachers can work together that's combating misinformation because we're saying parents and Teachers both functioning from what is in the best interest of the child working together is what's actually happening. We are saying that schools want to be safe places and want to also be hubs for families to come together. And again, I'm going to say this pushes back on the misinformation because it says what's really there. There's a lot of name-calling in the misinformation and a lot

0:25:11 Clip: Of fear-mongering. We've also said things like surgery is not happening for young children because it's not, and so some of the pushing back on misinformation and I will say that I had to explain hormonal blockers to a group of people last night because Daniel Smith who is not a medical doctor does not understand hormonal Blocker's and so her talking about it hormonal blockers as permanent changes gives people incorrect information so to be able to talk about hormonal blockers as putting puberty on pause it's not actually making changes it's preventing changes and so I want us to think about a pause as not introducing something new but as stopping something new from happening and with blockers in particular a technology that was created for children who are not trans but who are experiencing precocious puberty and that's why this is available really the idea that this is creating permanent changes is completely false so so we're the misinformation is really circulating the information and the facts which I'm hearing across the panel is the pushback and I would also say that I think a lot of what we're hearing is research it's not just stories and it's IT'S NOT JUST PERSONAL OPINIONS. THESE ARE EXPERIENCES AND UNDERSTANDINGS OF BROAD GROUPS. AND PART OF WHAT'S HAPPENING RIGHT NOW IS GOVERNMENT SAYING PEOPLE BECAUSE, LIKE, GOSH, WHAT

0:26:57 Thomas: Yeah this person is really reasonable and calm and explains things in a great manner maybe that's why buttfeld has to just resort to insulting how they

0:27:06 Lydia: Especially when a group of people that can be so incredibly marginalized and experience so much hate, so much name calling like Skelton notices here, like we witnessed happen in the Gutfeld clip to approach that conversation still with like patience and kindness and these things that a lot of those people don't honestly deserve is just remarkable to me. I think it talks about strength of character and everything. So, yeah, just really lovely. Like I said, wanted to make sure we platform some of that conversation because I think it was worthwhile. Now, the webpage for the event, they were linking to a variety of different resources. And one of those things was a parent's guide. And I'm always looking for parent's guides because those get manipulated a lot of times in right -wing news places and organizations or teacher's guides or things like that. The link on the webpage no longer works. So I had to go to way back. I think it just got relinked, like the directory changed.

0:28:09 Lydia: I don't think it got hidden or anything like that based on what I was seeing. And the parents guide is identified on this web page, created in collaboration with educators and parents to address some of the most common questions being asked about SOGI, inclusive education, SOGI again being sexual orientation and gender identity. I have the PDF, so if folks want it, happy to send it over to people. But there's also an education resource guide that seemed really interesting to me.

0:28:09 Thomas: Look yeah I I think they should do it in the form of songs, and then they could have a group sing those songs, and they could be the Soji Boys.

0:28:39 Lydia: I like it. There's also like a parent brochure, which is a high level version of this parent guide. And it's, you know, it's really just literally a front and back page trifold pamphlet, right? The threefold, you don't know what I'm talking about, where it says, I don't know. I'm just trying to explain it. It's very simple.

0:28:55 Thomas: Yeah, I'm familiar with the number of folds. Does this matter for some reason? It's not one of your extreme woke four-fold pages.

0:29:05 Lydia: And it just says, kids have questions. Be curious together. And I just think that's really, really lovely. And really, at the end of the day, what you would want to be doing as a parent. Yeah. Yeah, exactly.

0:29:13 Thomas: Yeah. All extremely normal stuff, which everyone pretty much would want to do. Yeah, this person really comes across well, and uh it's amazing that they have to dig for something from two years ago in Canada and then just insult how this person looks that's all that's all they have

0:29:29 Lydia: How they look. Yep. Yep. Well, I hate to inform you that I think we got to go back to the main clip.

0:29:36 Thomas: Hmm all right well maybe maybe we'll take a break first not a commercial break just me I'm just gonna no oh man

0:29:40 Lydia: Yeah? Yeah. Take a breather.

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0:29:50 Thomas: Can we get to the super funny jokes let's see we got an amazingly funny joke about I don't know what's in the water it's ice cream

0:30:00 Clip: CANADA, BUT CLEARLY IT'S ICE

0:30:02 Thomas: Yeah because one person is fat that means all of like you can't even be like, do some effort. Let's just look who's more. Okay. Who's more overweight, the U S or Canada? Let's Just, let's just see. Let'S see the United States. Wouldn't you know it? Wow. 35 % of American adults are obese compared to 24 % of Canadians. And, uh, I don't know what those, you know, who knows how that's rated, but as long as they're the same criteria, then that, that kind of shows you the comparison. So, uh yeah, that's a stupid fucking joke, asshole.

0:30:21 Lydia: Oh, yeah. Wouldn't you know it? Mm -hm.

0:30:38 Clip: WHEN IT SHOULD BE THORAZINE. LET'S NOT FORGET THE HOT TREND IN

0:30:50 Thomas: Jesus Christ, that's the worst joke delivery in the world. Let's not. I know it's not even like I kind of wish he would just nail the delivery so that we could be more focused on how bad the joke is. I'll forgive him his stumbles, even though he's terrible at it. And whatever. Let'S not forget the hot trend in Canadian health care already. It's already so great. It just I know. I know it sucks to always reference Louis C .K. because fuck that guy. But he did have a great bit about his daughter telling a joke. And it's his daughter. So we'll say it's her. It's great. Where she's telling a jock and she's like, who didn't let the bear into the ballet or something like, you know, some weird joke like that. And he's like I have no idea. I'm already, you knows, his bit was like he's heard every joke. He knows everything except his daughter's, which even though he sucks, I think is still applies to kids. It's a joyful thing about kids. The stuff they say is just so unpredictable.

0:30:52 Lydia: He's stumbling over it yeah yep so hot right now oh right

0:31:43 Thomas: And I love it. And the whole thing was like, yeah, who did not let the bare into the thing? And she's just like, just whoever was in charge of that was the punchline. It was so good. In the same way, Budfeld's brain is so addled. He's like a child in that, I said it last time, I love his jokes. They're so dumb. They are not coherent. I love it in the sense that it's a science experiment. It's an amazing like, oh man, let's not forget the hot trend in Canadian healthcare. Can you have a trend in healthcare? I mean, I guess kind of, but it's it's a bunch of stuff that just none of it works fully you have to be like is there a hot trend in health care like okay I guess all right so the hot trend and you know you know that thing we regularly talk about which is hot trends in canadian health care or something okay is you fall down and you can't get up they won't send an ambulance they'll send a hearse it doesn't make make any sense doesn't doesn't make any sense there's no foundation that could even work I guess

0:32:40 Lydia: Yeah it does not make any sense he hasn't laid any of the foundation for that like I think well I think what he's getting at is what he is going to talk about next maybe and like the like he switched. Anyway, maybe, maybe.

0:32:53 Thomas: But right away okay mate okay I will remain open but the whole thing has been about being overweight and right now would that mean if you fall and you can't get up which is by the way an old person thing the fall help I fall and I can't get up that's elderly famously the commercial is for an elderly person who has a button they can push when they fall and they can't get the fuck up. Has nothing to do with being overweight.

0:33:19 Thomas: Then the punchline is they won't send an ambulance. They'll send a hearse. Meaning what? Like you already died or something? I don't like, what does that mean? It doesn't mean anything.

0:33:28 Lydia: I think he's going after, you know, health care for all kind of thing. Like, I think that's what's happening. I'm I'm having to work hard to make sense of this, but I thinkthat's what he'sgoing for.

0:33:32 Thomas: Oh, okay. All right. All right, let's, I guess if that's true, you might be right, but that's, so I'm just going in the time dimension. Like if I was watching this as a person, nothing makes any sense. We'll see. Maybe he'll bring it back to us.

0:33:45 Clip: SO FAR 76,000 CANADIANS HAVE PEOPLES WITH TERMINAL ILLNESSES MARXISM AND SOCIALISM ARE STILL ALIVE AND WELL BUT THEY TAKE ON DIFFERENT NAMES AND SHAPES.

0:34:02 Lydia: I think that's it. I think that was his

0:34:03 Thomas: Okay even if so no I can't I can' I can't do it none of that applies I get it I hear where you where you're going I hear you it might be but then why would they call and say I've fallen I can't get up and then why wouldn't first of all even if someone's dead you send an ambulance um the hearse famously is not that you they're not like is that already dead okay we'll send in the hearse department for some reason yep and maybe never because like usually you just get cremated yeah it's not like two different kinds of transport depending just to the

0:34:12 Lydia: Intention. Yes. Yeah. Yes, not a hearse. No. Yeah, that's after you're in a coffin. Hearses like don't carry around just like you have bodies. Yeah yeah exactly.

0:34:40 Thomas: Hospital they're like the hearst lane and the hospital lane so that doesn't make sense it doesn't make sense that you would call and say you fall and you can't get up it doesn'T have any connection to the overweight thing which was everything he was doing previously but he's saying people are choosing euthanasia or something I guess to any of this

0:34:54 Lydia: Which is also unrelated to these other things too and yeah I know that's why I said it's the best I could do. I think he ruined the structure, the order, and the overall, I don't know, all of it. He just messed it up. Who are his writers? You know?

0:35:00 Thomas: Yeah no I think you're right but yeah just none of it makes sense why who didn't let the bear into the ballet yeah so if you thought it was bad so far and you did otherwise I don't know what you're doing here it's about to get dare I say it even worse like the casual racism that we're about to hear genuinely this was when we were first watching this, this is about how far I got. And I was like, I can't believe it. Like, I really can't breathe. It was so bad that I don't even think you got it. Like, yeah.

0:35:29 Lydia: I didn't. Yeah, man.

0:35:34 Thomas: Okay. Well, let's see. I'm just going back a little bit here.

0:35:38 Clip: MARXIST AND SOCALISMS ARE STIL

0:35:51 Lydia: In my defense, the people in the audience didn't really react either. Yeah. Yeah?

0:35:52 Thomas: Unbelievable. Oh yeah. It also doesn't really make sense. I even forgot. Cause I don'T even think of Mamdani. I mean, I just, for one, I'm not trying to be woke. I kind of just think of him as a cool American mayor. He's a socialist. I don' t really, like, IM not even trying to BE like a wokest. I just don't really think about Yeah, I just don't really think about his race or religion that much because I think, yeah, most people don't walk around being obsessed with like skin color and religion

0:36:07 Lydia: Yeah? God, God, he's so cool. I think about his social media team. I think about, like, yeah.

0:36:21 Thomas: And stuff. I guess, so I guess his parents are of Indian descent. I think he was born in Uganda, but I guess not Uganda. I don't think about it that much. I know he's Muslim and, you know, he's not white. I got that. But I just okay so he's of indian descent of some kind and so the joke is that you know indian people they uh fix your tech stuff here that's the joke so he he's the fucking mayor of new york the mayor of New York City the most important city maybe in the world for a lot of history in the and he's doing a great job it's it's just all everything aside politics aside an incredible accomplishment. And yet he's going to demean him by saying he can't fix his printer because to him, anyone who's vaguely Indian at all is just here for tech support. And that was so racist that Lydia didn't even pick up on that.

0:36:48 Lydia: The biggest city in America. Yep. Mm‑hmm.

0:37:19 Thomas: And like you say, the crowd didn't really either. And I just, but that is sickening. Like it's just, that's a level of racism that used to be, that used to get you canceled. Back before we invented the concept of cancel culture, culture, it actually did used to get you canceled. Back when cancel culture was just called normal course of business and people having like, you know, morals or something. And some of those morals were bad, obviously, like the Dixie Chicks got canceled for opposing the war and stuff. But pre -cancel culture, if you said this racist of a thing on TV, you'd just get fired. Like, and everyone would be like, yeah, pretty much. This is really bad. Like it is so bad.

0:37:28 Lydia: Yeah. Yeah. I feel like I have to explain myself why I didn't pick up on it in the moment. Yeah, that's true. I have to spend all my mental energy tracking, like how he's doing his sentence, like. Mm hmm. Yeah.

0:37:57 Thomas: God. Okay. OK, well, no one should ever be blamed for not understanding a Gutfeld joke. They're the most abstract pieces of fucking art that you can't. Yeah, you know what they are. You know, like so many people, probably including conservatives, are all like anti -modern art. And they're like, oh, what is this? It's a banana that someone's taped to the thing. That's Gutfeld's humor. But I'm like the college major that's like, no, you don't understand. It's I'm following all the ins and outs of why it's so fucking dumb and I can't get enough of it. Oh, God. So bad, but no, it's just bad.

0:38:36 Clip: ISSUES WITH TRUMP PREVENT YOU THE REASON WHY ZORAN WON IN NEW SO IF YOU DECIDE TO DO THE SAME

0:38:44 Thomas: Uh, that doesn't sound right to me.

0:38:44 Lydia: Pause. Pause? Yeah. So one of his panelists is going to repeat this as well. The estimated population of New York City as of July 2025 is eight point five million, eight point six million.

0:38:55 Thomas: That's crazy. So nobody voted. And then according to Gutfeld, according to Buttfeld, no, they didn't have an election. And they're like, well, I guess the tie goes to the guy who can't fix your printer is what they said. What the fuck is he talking about?

0:39:07 Lydia: The voter turnout in that election was actually more than the last decade in New York city. It's still pretty low. I mean, it was 30%. So that's pretty low.

0:39:14 Thomas: Oh man. But okay. Okay. The registered voter population is 5.1 million. And this fucking moron just said, well it's cause eight million. I was just like, get this straight. Let's see. Yeah. Yeah, so, so I guess negative three million people voted then. See, this is the thing. They're going to make fun of people for every which thing that is invalid, and they say the dumbest fucking shit. You're an idiot. Eight million people? You didn't bother? You're doing a TV show! We do more fact -checking for this podcast than your fucking TV show that you make millions of goddamn dollars to do.

0:39:32 Lydia: Yeah, that's crazy. Yeah Yeah. Yep.

0:39:55 Thomas: Eight million people, you fucking moron. So the turnout was up and it might be true that, I mean, you can kind of always say that when your side loses, I guess you can say that too many people stayed home, but not, I'm not really. Cause like if the turnout was massively up, I think that should tell you something like it's, it's not just about your side. Like if an election and people said this about Kamala in 2024 and they were just wrong by the numbers mostly because yeah, I won't get into all that. But if you had an election where the previous iteration, 10 people voted for one person and nine people voted for the other, and then the next election, 10 People vote for that same person and five people vote for the other. Okay. You could be like, yeah, I guess they stayed home or whatever. But if it's like Zoran and like a whole bunch of extra people voted, like he motivated new voters and like the energy was incredible. Overall turnouts up. Yeah. Okay, maybe some Republicans stayed home because they didn't have a candidate that was was worth anything or whatever but like it's fatal to your entire fucking thing to say eight million people stayed home when the registered population is 5.1 million that just means you're a fucking

0:39:55 Lydia: Yep mm -hmm. Yeah

0:40:58 Thomas: Idiot and you don't fact check normally I wouldn't I don't go so hard on people making minor mistakes but when your whole shtick is insulting people for every which thing and trying to find the worst examples and demeaning them and saying they're dumb and saying THEY CAN'T FIX YOUR PRINTER and then you say eight million people stay at home you fucking idiot what a a fucking

0:41:18 Clip: STAY HOME SO IF DECIDED TO DO THE SAMe IN 20 26, YOU'RE WHO HAVE ONLY GOTTEN WORSE. IT JUST FINDS A NEW DISGUISE AND

0:41:25 Thomas: Moron further into the system how do you get for you are the system you fucking idiot how do we get further into this system that's amazing if we did congrats

0:41:44 Clip: AND IT SLIPPED FURTHER INTO A LOT HARTER TO SPOCK BUT THE ONLY THING MORE DANGEROUS THAN A BAD IDEA IS THE KIND THAT

0:41:54 Thomas: Locusts okay that's how he ends his thing at first off it sounds like john oliver doing a bit with that one guy that does the analysis funny also it's period with an exclamation point which okay I guess I mean whatever, that's kind of funny or I don't know. I never know with him, like if that's just stupid or funny, but that's how he was able to end it. The only thing worse, there's no cleverness to those words. There's no poetry to the word. That's your going out line on your monologue. The only worse than a bad idea is one is the kind that learns how to hide, period. Oh my God. God the panel you watch some of that okay let's see

0:41:59 Lydia: Period period yeah yeah yeah and then we get into the panel yeah

0:42:42 Clip: WELCOME TONIGHT'S GUESTS. HE ONCE GOT SUN BURNED FROM SHE LOOKS LIKE SHE HAS THE SPICE GIRLS ON HER SPEED DIAL. FOX BUSINESS CORRESPONDENT MADISON ALLWORTH.

0:42:58 Thomas: There's no such thing as speed dial yeah

0:43:00 Lydia: No and also why

0:43:04 Clip: UNLIKE LIZ WARREN, HE REALLY DOES LIVE IN A TENT.

0:43:07 Thomas: What sorry what liz warren oh and there now now you got it and I didn't I was like where are we in this this is such I haven't thought about that for a

0:43:10 Lydia: It's the pocahontas yeah yeah

0:43:17 Clip: AND SHE PUTS HER BABY TO SLEEP BY LETTING HIM WATCH JESSE I WANT TO CONGRATULATE YOU ON YOUR NEW JOB AS A YACHT MANNEQUIN.

0:43:29 Thomas: While what okay what's a yacht mannequin oh my god

0:43:38 Lydia: See this is like the thing where I was like this is the best that greg gutfeld is in this clip like like I'm like okay that's fine yeah mm

0:43:43 Thomas: It's so good that isn't a thing that exists yacht mannequin what are you talking about what okay there's not a such a thing as

0:44:01 Clip: I THOUGHT IT WAS EITHER THAT OR GAY PARKING VALET FOR A FLORIDA HERE, MR. JOHNSON, LET ME GET STAY AWAY FROM ME, EFFEMINATE

0:44:12 Thomas: That that's that's oh my God he's fucking he has by the way a sheet of paper with these jokes written

0:44:21 Lydia: Uh -huh yeah I know I wonder like if we were able to screenshot and like zoom in enhance

0:44:24 Thomas: Down this is look Look, one low effort comedian to another. This is amazing. You have, but he's written, I've never written down a joke. No, I won't. I won'T lie. Sometimes I write down notes when I'm trying to do the fucking roast things for the thing because I don't like roasting. Occasionally I jot down some notes for gam here and there, but I'd never write down like full jokes. If I did, I would have something more than, because you've set up a premise. I thought it was either that or a gay parking valet for a Florida golf club. Okay, okay, fine, I get it. Is he dressed like Florida at all? Yeah, which is not a thing. Which you could just say you look like a mannequin someone puts on a yacht.

0:44:31 Lydia: Enhance yeah yeah no I see the yacht mannequin more than that which I know isn't a thing but if it were this is what it would be yeah

0:45:09 Thomas: You know, like you could at least justify it. It's the slight more effort of making... You don't want to have the audience sit there. Is the yacht mannequin... Do they have those? Like in the yacht store? Do they put mannequins in the yard? Not, yeah, is that, that doesn't make sense. You know, you don't, it's not, I'm not just being a stickler for, like, you just don't want your audience, if you're a comedian, thinking those thoughts. Like, it just makes the joke unclear and people aren't laughing if they're going, oh, is this a yacht mannequin? You know what I mean? So, say a mannequin that someone took on their yacht or someone, find some way to justify it. With the Florida. I was just granting that maybe he's dressed in a way that because I don't really know anything about clothes and don't notice crap like that. So you're saying there's nothing about him that that screams Florida

0:45:20 Lydia: To help sell the yachts yeah no I don't think so

0:45:56 Thomas: In any way. Yeah, not really. Why say Florida? Just gay parking valet. So not a caddy, but a parking valet for a Florida golf club. Yeah.

0:46:01 Lydia: But then he says oh here mr johnson let me get your clubs for you which is not what a valet would do maybe

0:46:08 Thomas: So I mean, so I guess getting them out of the trunk or something, you could say. Sure. But then he's not going to do you look he's planned the joke if this were if he was just off the cuff maybe I would but I see the paper where he's written yacht mannequin and some other stuff I can't make out he is planning I think it says it at the top I'm pretty sure in the writing right there uh and and okay if you're not gonna do a gay voice which good I'm glad you didn't do a guy voice but why not you're doing everything else that's way more offensive your your impression of a gay parking valet is here Here, let me get my clubs for you. And then the other thing is stay away from me. Effeminate man is, I guess you're the, that's nothing, man. That is less than nothing. The low effort. This guy makes millions of fucking dollars on this.

0:46:13 Lydia: Okay but yeah oh can you see where it says yacht mannequin oh my gosh amazing amazing yeah mm -hmm cool

0:46:57 Clip: WHITEST OUTFIT EVER, RIGHT UNDER

0:47:07 Thomas: He's like, don't.

0:47:19 Clip: I'M GLAD JOE BIDEN IS STILL NOT LGBT, HE WAS LIKE, LB, LGB, LBB CHEEK, OH, DAMMIT.

0:47:26 Lydia: Let's be ableist now yeah I think he does like a biden bit for his show or something

0:47:29 Clip: WHEN I SAW THAT, I THOUGHT

0:47:30 Thomas: It's not a bad Biden face. I'll give him credit for that. Okay. Yeah. He already made the password joke.

0:47:36 Clip: THAT HAS SYMBOLS AND SPECIAL I THINK WE'RE ALL OVER THIS AT CRAIG, AS IT SHRINKS, PEOPLE ARE TAKING IT LESS SERIOUSLY. SO PEOPLES LIKE LAWRENCE O'DONNELL ARE THE ONLY ONES WHO WOKE IS ONLY WORKING IN THESE SMALL AREAS LIKE IN BLUE CITIES.

0:48:00 Lydia: New york city

0:48:01 Thomas: This small area, like New York fucking city. City. What are you talking about? Oh, my God. Oh, he's about to say the dumb shit. Oh, eight million people in the city. So he's at least said a thing that sounds slightly more true. Now, again, five million registered voters.

0:48:07 Lydia: Yeah yeah I know I know

0:48:12 Clip: YOU DON'T NEED THAT MANY PEOPLE

0:48:23 Thomas: So that doesn't make sense. He got one point one million votes. OK, what did the what did The Last Person get? You said turnout was up. Eric Adams, 753,000 votes. Before that, Bill de Blasio, 760,000 votes. Before that Bill de Blazio, 795,000 votes. Before that Michael Bloomberg, 585,000 votes. Now we're already back into 2009. So numbers might be changing. Michael Bloomberg 2005 got 753 thousand votes. Now back in the, I don't know, 9 -11 days. No, it's still Michael Bloomberg 744,000 votes. So he got, wow. Wow. So the amount of votes he got being one point one million ish. Right.

0:49:04 Thomas: That's like fucking double some previous elections. Wow. Wow. And wow. OK, that's a lot.

0:49:11 Lydia: Yeah and he says you don't need that many for people for these people to get their way. What? It's more than anybody else has ever gotten as a winner. Oh, rank choice?

0:49:20 Thomas: Yeah, I'm trying to think, is there there was the is that the weird ballot ordering stuff? So, yeah, if it's ranked choice, maybe in the end. No, it's let's see. So Ron active. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. So it is the rank choice stuff might be an issue. So in the, I guess in the final round, oh, that's a good point. Yeah. It was for the primary. Yeah, no, that doesn't. Okay, no. Yeah。 Okay. I was going to say maybe he has a point because in the primary, he ended up with something like 573 ,000 all told, but I'm looking at the, now I'll just look at the primary turnout.

0:49:38 Lydia: Yeah, that would be just primary though, right? So it wouldn't be for the, it wouldn'T be for general.

0:49:55 Thomas: Eric Adams, final round primary 404,000. So way more than that, right?

0:50:01 Lydia: Yeah.

0:50:01 Thomas: Quite a bit more. Before that bill de blasio 326,000 votes in the primary so even on that I'm just making sure because I you know have a slight amount more effort than this fucking clown zoron even in the primary got quite a bit more than past couple primaries so there's no sense in which the thing you're saying is true are you dumb you're just fucking dumb I

0:50:23 Clip: TO GET THEIR WAY, BUT I'M DONE

0:50:24 Lydia: Lazy.

0:50:24 Thomas: Guess now he's done with it now Now I have a different mayor.

0:50:29 Clip: BUT I REJECT IT COMPLETE NOW THAT I WAS WORKING ON MY HOME LOOKED UP VIDEOS, AND I'M HOME DEPOT, AND THE PEOPLES I DON'T NEED A WOMAN AND HER IT'S LIKE YOU KNOW THAT, I MEAN, THAT IS LIKE OUT OF THE H.R.

0:50:45 Thomas: What? What the fuck? They're obsessed. Elise said normal. Yeah. Yeah. Normal. Imagine seeing a black person being like, I just want normal. They're upset. They're obsessive. They're just obsessed with race. All the time. Race and gender. They're fucking obsessed. Their brains are puny, shriveled brains. They're so addled by propaganda, they can't process any other thoughts. A black lady gave me normal. Them all. That's all they can do. Who cares who's showing you how to do drywall? I'm sure it's fine. If it was, they said it was the Home Depot page. You think a Home Depot is like, let's just grab random people who are diverse and hey, you could probably do it, right? Yeah. Do you think they're, no, I'm Sure they had it, them doing it right. Who Cares? Yeah, no, it's impossible. You can't find that.

0:51:07 Lydia: -hmm. I will say Kat Temp, I don'T like her, But she is, I mean, she doesn't call him out specifically, but she's like, this is ridiculous. Like, you can tell she's, like, okay, this ist the stupidest thing. Yeah.

0:51:56 Lydia: Also, if, like – if you are that obsessed with having to – like, you absolutely need to watch a white man do home improvement, there are scores of YouTube channels. You can just go to that, take two seconds, and find somebody that you like on there and just watch them instead. You have access to the entire internet in front of you. Oh, okay.

0:52:15 Thomas: No, you can't find it. They don't let white people be on YouTube anymore. Can't be done.

0:52:24 Ad: [Ad break 3 — ad music]

0:52:27 Clip: IT'S DELETE, I'M DONE. DRY WALL, ISN'T IT EASY?

0:52:30 Thomas: Did you delete the YouTube video from the internet? What do you say? Just don't watch it. You fucking idiot.

0:52:35 Clip: LISTEN, WELL, SOMETIMES. SOMEBODY LIKE THIS OLD HOUSE.

0:52:49 Thomas: That's such a great example because he's just been a fucking idiot cosplaying as a working man for all this time. That's great. That's a, that is a perfect distillation. Do you want to know what Mike Rowe studied in school?

0:52:51 Lydia: Yeah. Yep. Tell me. Oh, my gosh. Is he a Nepo baby, you think? I wonder. Yeah. Okay, I see. And he was an Eagle Scout. Okay. Ooh. Mike Rowe, baritone.

0:53:04 Thomas: Theater and singing. I probably, I know that people, uh, he's just a fake fucking guy is what I, I haven't looked into it much, but yeah, he just did voiceover. He's an actor. He said, Roe sang professionally with the Baltimore opera. So you, you know who I need? Mike Roe, an opera singer. That's who I need. You know why? Cause he's a white man, but it's, it's just such a perfect distillation. Could it be any more perfect? No, no. I need a real working man. I needs an opera singer. But just because of his race, who knows if whoever he's talking about, this black woman, maybe she fucking rules maybe she's like an amazing carpenter or whatever I don't know something you know who knows but they're so blinded by their own bullshit he's like no no give me the guy who played something on tv because he looks like it god incredible you

0:54:00 Clip: THE THING IS, YOU'VE GOT TO BE SOMEWHERE THERE'S LIKE A BLACK WOMAN AND HER DAUGHTER, THEY'RE DOING DRYWALL, THEY OPEN UP THE LIKE THEY WANT A DUDE TO TELL YOU KNOW, YOU REALLY ARE LEANING INTO THIS CHARACTER AS A WHITE

0:54:06 Thomas: Gotta be honest wow probably not uh yeah

0:54:24 Lydia: It's like too much for Greg Gutfeld. And I think that's where we should end it. But yeah.

0:54:25 Thomas: Yeah yeah you're right greg he's going too far for you too. Fucking asshole.

0:54:35 Lydia: And anyway, the rest of the panel is them. Honestly, there's a lot more hate for Dr. Skelton that I don't think is worth airing. I don'T I expose myself to it. I DON'T want you guys to have to deal with it. We've dealt with enough of that already. But really,

0:54:48 Thomas: But good to get the real info on that. Yeah, it's just a video from two years ago of somebody talking about very reasonable things and kind of nice things, actually.

0:54:50 Lydia: A lot of nonsense. Yeah, yeah. Yep.

0:54:58 Thomas: Oh, boy. They're so addled. We are not able to properly recognize a society with how brain damaged these people are. They are not well. We don't have the language. We do not have the infrastructure because the media just has to fucking both sides everything. But these people People are they're not OK. They're not. They shouldn't be in charge of things like you could. They're just spouting things that are wrong about the new. I just went to Wikipedia, man. That's where I found the numbers of the election. Yeah, I did it live live as we were going. You have a show that makes millions and millions and billions of dollars. That's the most watched fucking bullshit night thing as we covered. And you can't go on Wikipedia. Unbelievable. Well, what a piece of shit. It. I know there's more that we put you through, but we're out of time.

0:55:18 Lydia: Took a minute. 60 seconds mhm yep crazy well it doesn't fit their narrative so there you go it's okay I'll suffer in silence it's

0:55:43 Thomas: And that's all my heart can take before I have just an absolute heart attack. Oh, boy, this fucking guy. Well, maybe we'll revisit Gutfeld sometime. What a moron. Thanks, Lydia, for going through that and getting the real facts on some of that stuff. And, uh, that person sounds pretty cool. As usual, they have to delve into the, just the most obscure corners of the internet to try to find something to make them look good. And it just, it still doesn't work. So, all right, Wokies, thanks so so much for listening we really appreciate you and we'll see you next time

0:55:49 Lydia: Fine yep see ya