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WTW126: Greg Gutfeld Is a Cruel, Miserable F***Ing Loser

It's been a while since we've stopped by Gutfeld's corner on Fox News - and boy, was that a rude awakening. He's the biggest ass, and strips ALL context from anything he ever talks about in order to own the libs or something. Lydia's here to give us the context and debunk while we call out Gutfeld's disgusting behavior on his terrible show.

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0:00:03 Clip: What's so scary about the woke mob? How often you just don't see them coming. Anywhere you see diversity, equity, and inclusion, you see Marxism and you see woke principles being pushed. Wokeness is a virus more dangerous than any pandemic hands down. The woke monster is here and it's coming for everything. EVERYTHING, EVERYTHIN', EVERYTHI- Instead of go-go boots, the seductress green M&M will now wear sneakers.

0:00:41 Thomas: Hello and welcome to Where There's Woke. This is episode 126. I'm Thomas. That over there is Lydia. How you doing?

0:00:46 Lydia: I'm okay. How are you?

0:00:48 Thomas: I'm excited to be talking to the Wokies.

0:00:49 Lydia: Oh, I know. Well, Wokies are the best.

0:00:50 Thomas: That's the Wokies. But, uh, yeah, we're gonna be talking about human trafficking par... No, no, just kidding. Psych. We didn't plan that coordinated psych. We did not rehearse that 10 times right before hitting record. I promise you. Why did you say that? Weird.

0:00:57 Lydia: Psyche. We didn't plan that, you guys. Yeah, we actually didn't.

0:01:11 Thomas: So we've been in the human trafficking game for so long that...

0:01:15 Lydia: Clip it.

0:01:15 Thomas: Yeah, we're thinking we got to check back into our roots. You know, we got to get back into the soul of the show. And we're thinking like, ah, do we want to look at Ben Shapiro? It's like, oh, you know, talk about him all the time. You know, and also I feel like he's practically a liberal now compared to other people. Then we're thinking, wait a minute, we haven't checked in with Greg Gutfeld in a minute and his show that apparently is higher rated than some of the other nighttime shows. Now, yeah, I know. I think there's a little bit of nuance to that I think part of it is that there's like one thing for all assholes to watch whereas there's many options for non -assholes so a bit of diversification there but still he can tout himself as the most widely watched late night whatever show it is yeah

0:01:35 Lydia: We haven't. Yes, Jimmy Kimmel. Colbert. Yep. Mm -hmm.

0:01:57 Lydia: Late night. Yeah, isn't that weird too? Do it's like late night comedy show I don't know yeah

0:02:02 Thomas: Yeah I mean it's a 10 it's also earlier than the other ones so I think that's kind of gaming the system yeah the olds yeah but anyway so you pulled out we're like yeah looking for ideas you pulled up a Greg Gutfeld video

0:02:05 Lydia: Well they have to because the old fox news watching boomers yeah yeah

0:02:16 Thomas: And we watched a whole 30 seconds of it before like dear god

0:02:20 Lydia: In shock I think like both of us like jaw dropped just overwhelmed with how bad this

0:02:26 Thomas: This is really bad and it's not just that it's unfunny which don't worry I will be talking about how unfuny it is it is so atrocious it's just beyond like should not be a part of our society yeah it's like it's so ugly and mean and terrible that uh we gotta talk about it and we gotta dispel some of obviously some of the bullshit, but also just talk about how horrible he is and this is and that we need to get our country, I don't know if back is the right word. I don' t know if we ever had it, but we need a proper country. We need to change this. This is terrible. So we' re going to be talking about Greg Gutfeld, or as I named the episode, Greg Buttfeld. There, I said it. That' s right, Greg Butfeld. Maybe that' s what radicalized him. He was bullied and people called

0:02:32 Lydia: Was in society exactly yeah yeah oh that's good I like it oh my gosh that's how he will be known from henceforth. Could be. Could be, yeah.

0:03:15 Thomas: Alden Buttfeld. He deserved it. They should have put him in that locker another time. Oh boy. So yeah, this is going to be fun. We got to talk about this. It's, it's so terrible.

0:03:26 Lydia: Yeah, yeah, I guess a little bit of a trigger warning, like he does get into some really, really horrible name calling and stuff. So if that's something you're sensitive to.

0:03:35 Thomas: Oh, boy. Well, we'll take our usual break, which you can avoid at patreon.com slash wherethere'swoke. You can avoid the ads, the auto ads. You don't need them. Nobody needs them. Avoid them. patreon.com slash wherethere'swoke and get bonus extras every now and again. All right. We'll take a break and then we will hit play on Greg Buttfeld.

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0:03:57 Thomas: OK, well, do we need to say any more to really? Yeah, it's like how soon until we lose our minds like we can play. I actually asked Lydia before we started if she got through the whole video. Like I said, I didn't.

0:03:59 Lydia: From the top, no.

0:04:10 Thomas: You don't need to. I doubt we're going to. We'll see. It's 14 minutes, everybody.

0:04:10 Lydia: Yeah, I know.

0:04:15 Thomas: And I was astonished that she got Through the whole thing.

0:04:17 Lydia: I did, I got through the whole thing.

0:04:19 Thomas: And I don't mean because like, oh, you can't watch it because we'll watch stuff for work. But more like because the nature of our debunk work and stuff, it's like it would take days to write enough notes or whatever. You know what I mean? So sometimes it's, like, okay, we got enough. It's, Like, oh,

0:04:33 Lydia: Yeah ,I think the benefit is of a show like Gutfeld is, or butt -filled is that they don't really talk that much about the stories a lot of it is them like roasting each other oh yeah so we have stories we have context we have nuance we have all that kind of stuff we're going to be talking about but I think there's also some interesting moments we can kind of go to to just see how the interaction is happening there too

0:04:45 Thomas: I didn't get past him just talking. Sure, but most of all, I cannot get over how unfunny he is. And it's not a partisan thing. It's not because I'm trying to make him be unfunty. It's that truly right -wing comedy fundamentally doesn't work because it's always punching down. But you could still, at least I could recognize like, oh, that's a right wing guy that maybe people would find funny.

0:05:21 Thomas: This is just like, it doesn't work. Nothing works. I love it. I actually love that part of it. Like getting to see how bad you can be at basic construction of jokes is, uh, it's entertaining to me, you know? Well, here we go. This was pretty fresh within the week here.

0:05:38 Clip: But it's true, as the walls close in, cornered animals are often the most dangerous. I know this from shooting invasive feral hogs from my helicopter.

0:05:43 Thomas: Okay. Right away. Right, right away.

0:05:50 Lydia: What?

0:05:50 Thomas: Okay, so we're, we're starting in the middle or something. This is the beginning of the clip, but I assume he already did something in the show. It just kind of starts, right?

0:05:57 Lydia: Yeah.

0:05:58 Thomas: So this must be some sort of segment of the show?

0:06:01 Lydia: Yeah, well, because Fox News puts like the entire show on their own app and stuff. And so they do they just put segments on YouTube. But that's what we got are often the most dangerous.

0:06:08 Thomas: But what we have is set up right away. Ready? Well, a cornered animal. What is it?

0:06:15 Thomas: Okay. Cornered animals are often the most dangerous. I know this from shooting invasive feral hogs from my helicopter. And then it shows a picture that cannot be him. Is that meant to be him?

0:06:27 Lydia: I don't know. I guess it is.

0:06:29 Thomas: See, See, that's the thing, because, yeah,

0:06:29 Lydia: But then why wouldn't they just put his face on it?

0:06:32 Thomas: I think they use AI for everything. So it made a picture of somebody in a helicopter with a gun. Now, he's famously about being in a helicopter and shooting stuff. You can't corner it. None of it's cornered. If you're in a Helicopter shooting down on a vast plane, nothing's cornering you.

0:06:50 Lydia: Yeah ask Sarah Palin.

0:06:53 Thomas: Idiot. God, it's already so bad. It doesn't make any sense. The person in the helicopter is not him because I think it's because they're using AI. So it's like, it looks more like Kevin James. It's like he, it's a perfect cross between him and Kevin James, to be honest with you. I guess you can't even tell. Okay. So there we go. And I fucking love this. I love this show so much.

0:07:10 Lydia: Like a more more athletic Kevin James. Oh,

0:07:20 Thomas: I'm actually with how bad it is just joke wise, like everything is atrocious, but getting into the thought process. So you need that set. What do you need? That that set up for? Because that's not a natural setup for anything. As walls close in, cornered animals are often the most dangerous. That's a very artificial transition. So he wants to talk about something with that. We're nine seconds in. Here we go.

0:07:38 Clip: Which explains why Joy Behar now wears orange.

0:07:44 Thomas: Which explains why Joy Behar now wears orange. And I swear to God, this is red. Am I crazy? Would you call that orange?

0:07:51 Lydia: I mean, I guess it's hard. Yeah. It's like in between the two colors. It is not a true red. It isn't a true orange.

0:07:57 Thomas: I feel like they found a photo of her or a still of her in red and then tried to color correct it to orange and failed. That's what I feel like.

0:08:04 Lydia: Interesting.

0:08:05 Thomas: But anyway, what's the logic there? Which is why she now wears orange.

0:08:09 Lydia: I don't know. It doesn't make any sense to me.

0:08:12 Thomas: I just love the logic.

0:08:12 Lydia: What is that implying? What does that mean?

0:08:15 Thomas: So I guess we're supposed to refer to the helicopter because you've already lost it. Is wearing orange mean she's cornered or she's more dangerous? No. So we've lost that. So he's gone two abstractions away from a statement that's a like clunky intro anyway so okay as you close in corn animal I know this from shooting my hogs which explains why joy behar now wears orange because he shoots hogs and so she's trying to make sure she doesn't get shot and so he's a hog is that the I think so

0:08:47 Lydia: Yeah. Maybe. Is that what he is trying to get at? He is calling her a pig, basically.

0:08:54 Thomas: You shouldn't be this confused by jokes you know like if if I tell a joke and lydia doesn't get it and is like I have to explain it that means I I didn't usually do a good job. 20 % of the time, it's because Lydia doesn't know a thing she should know. And that's on her. But most

0:09:04 Lydia: Oh yeah, yeah, you just like leave the whole night. Like, OK.

0:09:12 Thomas: Of the Time, that means, oh, okay, I guess that wasn't a good joke. Because you can't be sitting there being like, no, no. You don't understand. Because she's just a hog. What? That has no logical connection to anything. And the way the guy, Greg Buttfeld, is sitting back like he's fucking barely putting any effort into his terrible fucking malicious jokes yeah

0:09:33 Lydia: Though he does have a pile of papers on top of his lap. Do you see that? I mean, it's a lot of paper.

0:09:36 Thomas: I yeah I what what could that be what could you be using those papers for because it's not to write jokes

0:09:40 Lydia: I don't know. Yeah. Yeah.

0:09:48 Clip: WHICH EXPLAINS WHY JOY BEHAR

0:09:50 Thomas: Okay here we go so we've this is already such a wild ride I love it so much okay what's gonna be the next sentence

0:09:54 Clip: BECAUSE WOKEISM IS LIKE ANY CULT, THEY ONLY INCREASE THE

0:09:56 Thomas: Because what what why how do we

0:09:57 Lydia: What? Do we all wear orange?

0:09:58 Thomas: Get because wokeism is like any cult where did that have to do with any of what we just said okay it's so amazing I want to make a flow chart of his like it's incredible how bad it is every level of it is terrible okay OK, so I'm not going to reset all the way, but just to keep track of where we are, because it's so confusing. We are 20 seconds in and I'm already confused.

0:10:06 Lydia: I can't track it. Yes.

0:10:21 Thomas: So which explains why Joy Behar is orange. And then he just starts because wokeism is like any cult. How do we get to wokeism? We don't know. Is she woke?

0:10:30 Lydia: No, I don't think particularly I mean I don't know she's like a

0:10:35 Thomas: But like, here's the thing. If that's meant to branch off of her being woke, then you already done fucked up because the her thing was just referring to you shooting hogs in a helicopter. It doesn't really have anything to do. It isn't directly related to the cornered thing because wearing orange isn't a behavior you do when cornered.

0:10:44 Lydia: Neoliberal and orange isn't related to being

0:10:53 Thomas: Exactly. There's nothing. It's just, it's incredible. The level of no effort, or you're that dumb and it takes this amount of effort. It's like flow of consciousness.

0:11:01 Lydia: Woke yeah this setup is just so strange

0:11:04 Thomas: God, it'S good. Okay. Okay,

0:11:09 Clip: AWFULNESS WHEN THEY FEEL THAT'S WHY JIM JONES LED TO AND WHY NIRVANA LED TO THE FOO

0:11:17 Thomas: Oh my God. It's so good. Okay.

0:11:20 Lydia: Okay so jim jones yes cult okay

0:11:21 Thomas: So you start with an example that is like not a joke. That's a literal thing. So like after they shot the congressman yeah so okay you type literal going literal there and

0:11:25 Lydia: Things were closing in yeah yeah yeah what was closing in on nirvana

0:11:36 Thomas: That's why nirvana led to the foo fighters I paused it too early but I think this one even the audience was like not sure so no one laughed because that's not a joke and the panelist was like fuck all right ah ha ha and he's like thank you yeah it's not it's nothing

0:11:45 Lydia: Yeah it's just the panelist yeah yeah let me bail

0:11:56 Thomas: And here's a minor thing he shows a picture of the Foo Fighters now like wouldn't you want to show a picture of the Foo Fighters like shortly after Nirvana to show some connection. We're a hundred years away from Nirvana. It's practically not even part of why he's here anymore. You know, like we're 30 plus years from that. It's not relevant to it anymore. Like anyone younger than me doesn't even understand what just happened.

0:12:21 Lydia: Well, I still don't understand. I mean, I am younger than you, but I also don't understand what is the thing that closed in on Nirvana because it was just that Kurt Cobain killed himself.

0:12:29 Thomas: Well, yeah, well, exactly. You see the authorities were closing in on Nirvana and so

0:12:36 Lydia: Yeah, the FBI was on it.

0:12:36 Thomas: Dave Grohl jumped out of the drum set and went to a different, started his own band. It doesn't make any sense. Yeah.

0:12:41 Lydia: I don't get it. Right. All he wants to say is that he doesn't think Foo Fighters are very good. And Dave Grohl is the link.

0:12:47 Thomas: As good as Nirvana. Yeah.

0:12:48 Lydia: Right, but you can't just Just use that then in service of this other point you're trying to make.

0:12:53 Thomas: It's not even like, there's no level in which it works. It just doesn't work. Foo Fighters is like objectively had a lot of success. I don't, you know, I always, you know, soft spot in my heart for Nirvana, of course, but like there isn't a universal joke about Foo Fighters being bad. I know that doesn't exist. Right. Unless I've missed it. Yeah. It's Not Nickelback. Yeah. Like maybe you would have something if Nickelback had spawned from some other band or something? I don't know.

0:13:11 Lydia: Mm-hmm. Yeah, it's not like Nickelback. Yeah. I don't know.

0:13:21 Thomas: Why are you even talking about bands? Why are we doing any of this? None of this is anything. You've only introduced the concept of if someone is threatened, then they get crazier. Why would you connect that to this?

0:13:32 Lydia: I feel like you could come up with something else. I mean, you could have done like bottom of the barrel Britney Spears joke, right?

0:13:34 Thomas: Anything. I feel like you could just jump off a bridge and fucking die. That's what I feel you could do if you were Greg Buttfeld, maybe. Or apart from that, you could work a little harder and come up with anything. God, okay, here we go. It's not funny.

0:13:53 Clip: FACT IS, AS SANE PEOPLE LEAVE THE LEFTOVERS CONGEAL INTO SOMETHING MORE EXTREME, LIKE

0:14:00 Thomas: Hey, I do agree with that.

0:14:01 Clip: WHEN PETE HEGSETH NOTED THAT WE LEAVED NO MAN BEHIND, EMMIS NOW'S LEFT OVER, LAWRENCE THE GENERAL KNOWS, UNLIKE PETE HEGSITH, THAT THAT COULD HAVE BEEN A WOMAN THEY WERE TRYING TO RESCUE AND IT MIGHT BE

0:14:19 Thomas: I haven't looked this up.

0:14:20 Lydia: Okay, I did.

0:14:21 Thomas: There's no chance that O'Donnell did a whole monologue based on, well, he said, leave no man behind. And that might've been a woman. Zero fucking chance.

0:14:29 Lydia: This clip really pissed off a lot of people on the right. Actually, Megyn Kelly did a segment on it, too. She was like, there's so much you can criticize about the war, but O'Donnell's going to be, he's tone policing Pete Hegseth, blah, blah. National Review did a bit on this, too. It's kind of blown up everywhere. But what he's actually doing is he was criticizing Trump overall, the administration overall, the war overall, its cost overall.

0:14:52 Lydia: And when you look at that full context, I mean, I can send you this clip right now.

0:14:55 Thomas: Please. Cause I mean, I'm willing to be wrong. Lawrence O'Donnell, I think is pretty good. I like Lawrence O'donnell for the most part. I can't imagine him spending that amount of time and emotional energy on that. Like I, that'd be hard for me to believe.

0:15:11 Lydia: It was not a segment based off of language choice.

0:15:14 Clip: Donald Trump announced today at the White House that they used 155 aircraft and hundreds of military personnel in that rescue mission to save that one colonel who ejected from the back seat of an F-15 that the Iranians shot down on Friday when Donald Trump had said the Iranians couldn't possibly do that. Donald Trump said they had no air defenses in Iran. And they humiliated Donald Trump by proving him wrong by shooting down his planes, shooting down two of his planes. The pilot of that plane was rescued within hours of the shoot down. He's still unnamed, seriously injured colonel, had to hide for 48 hours before the rescue team could find him and save him without losing any other military personnel in that very risky mission. They did lose two rescue planes worth $100 million each that they had to leave behind in Iran and destroy as they were leaving. And today at the White House, that brilliant rescue was described by the Secretary of Defense and by General Dan Kaine, the chairman of the Joint chiefs of staff as a long-standing american military rule of never leaving anyone behind we leave no man behind that is of course the old-school version of the idea back when only men flew american military planes general dan kane the chairman of the joint chiefs staff put it this way. We leave no one behind. The General knows, unlike Pete Hegseth, that that could have been a woman they were trying to rescue, and it might be a woman the next time. But this 21st century notion that we leave no-one-behind ignores the 120,000 prisoners

0:16:17 Thomas: Jesus. Is that it?

0:17:31 Clip: AND THE IDEA OF USING 155

0:17:32 Lydia: Yeah, that was it.

0:17:34 Thomas: Okay. Yeah. So it's a minor comment and it's relevant because Pete Hegseth has said in his fucking book and had, and you know, like was grilled about it to some extent during confirmation that he doesn't think women should be allowed in the military. And so O'Donnell is making the comment that, Hey, this other person though, who's like, you know not Pete Heigseth, more professional knows that it could have been a woman.

0:17:59 Thomas: Okay. Literally that's one sentence spent Bent on something that is completely valid. That's how fucking stupid these people are. They have to pump everything out of anything they can find. And that's how desperate they are.

0:18:15 Lydia: When I was watching some of the other commentary around this particular clip from the right, the National Review was, you know, like, no man left behind. It's been that way since colonial times. That's a saying dates back to that. I was like, there's no freaking way. So I looked that up and it's not quite that old, but it was focused on men because that's who was serving.

0:18:29 Thomas: Well, I could see that being true. Well, it also, I mean, there also was a thing where the language was just assumed to be representative of both genders, even when saying male. Like, that's just how language was.

0:18:42 Lydia: Yes. Yes, exactly. So I was looking up because various branches of the military have have this baked into like their creed. And the Army's soldier's creed, it says, I will never leave a fallen comrade.

0:18:56 Thomas: Comrade, those fucking communists.

0:18:58 Lydia: The Marine Corps is leave no one behind no matter the cost.

0:19:02 Thomas: Well, that'S because the wokest got in there and DEI'd it. That's why.

0:19:04 Lydia: And then the airman's creED is I will not leave a soldier alone. Never leave an airman behind. Airman is not gender specific, by the way. It's applied to all folks that serve in the Air Force. But just kind of like looking at the way that it's employed in the language of the people who actually serve inthe military. Yeah, Yeah, I think it's perfectly fine to call out Pete Hegseth's choice of language there.

0:19:25 Thomas: Well, and here's the thing. I don't even think he's calling it out, even in the way that they think. Like, I think that if this had been a just average, I don' t know, Secretary of Defense or somebody else who said, yeah, leave no man behind. I d' n't think O'Donnell would have given a shit about it.

0:19:41 Thomas: It's not really about the language policing of that. It' s that we know the fucker doesn' t believe women should be in the military. That' s what it is. It'S a totally valid thing to point out. No.

0:19:53 Lydia: It's also like in the larger context of criticizing the war and the cost of I don't think he's saying we shouldn't have tried to rescue this person, but recognize the amount of money, the additional lives that you're putting at risk in order to get that one person. This is something where it's like it's really like a morale based thing. Practically, it'S really, really hard to actually like put this into of practice during war, of course, you know, and he mentioned it in his clip as well, that we had over 100 ,000, 150 ,000 prisoners of war in World War II. As of this year, there's still 83 ,000 people that remain unaccounted for from our previous wars that just never were found. It's 73 ,547 from World War Two, 7 ,883 from the Korean War, and 1 ,642 from the Vietnam War.

0:20:38 Lydia: So in order to like fulfill that promise, like no, no one left behind, no man left behind or whatever, who cares? It does take time. And I'm not upset that they rescued this person or anything like that. But he mentioned, you know, we lost two $100 million aircraft that we just had to essentially light on fire as we left.

0:20:58 Lydia: And this war is stupid. And it's a bad idea.

0:21:00 Thomas: It's just a part. Yeah I don't think the criticism would be no you should have left that guy there. It's more like yeah no I'm agreeing with you.

0:21:04 Lydia: No, no, absolutely not. Yeah.

0:21:06 Thomas: So it's more like we shouldn't even be here and now it's costing even more. But yeah I think that's right.

0:21:10 Lydia: Yeah, and again, and putting other people's lives at risk.

0:21:13 Thomas: I mean I don'T even think that's like that important. We are like the whole thing was seizing on that word choice. You know like that's that's their complaint. But let's see where the logic goes from here. I can't. Oh my God. Are are you ready for this? No, you're not. Listener, you are not ready for this. Here we go.

0:21:29 Clip: TO RESCUE AND IT MIGHT BE A MALE, WHICH IS MORE THAN I

0:21:41 Lydia: So crazy.

0:21:43 Thomas: Which is more than I can say about my thoughts on Chris Hayes. It already was bad. I actually forgot the my thoughts part. I was already remembering like, which is more than I can say about Chris HayES. That already wouldn't work because you're saying, again, think about languages. It means stuff and you got to use it like in a way that makes sense to make jokes or it has to not make sense in a way that's funny. Not just confusing.

0:22:08 Thomas: Again, Sorry, Larry, but Pete knew for sure the pilot was a male, which is more than I can say about my thoughts on Chris Hayes. So you can't quite say about Chris HayES that Pete knew the pilot was a mail. You would never say that about Chris Hays. I agree. Yeah. What are you talking about? The joke is supposed to be Chris HAYES looks like a woman to him, I guess.

0:22:26 Lydia: Yeah, mm -hmm, I guess. Yeah mm

0:22:36 Thomas: But like you can't like there's even in that realm of bad, offensive, idiot joke, you could still make it in a way that would be coherent. It's so fucking bad. It is so bad. And here's the thing. You know what? I'm just I'm juste forming a theory. Here's my theory.

0:22:54 Lydia: Tell me lay it on

0:22:55 Thomas: When you are a piece of shit like Greg Butfeld and when you are in the piece of shitt milieu, the Butfeld and that kind of humor cohort yeah what you have is a whole wealth of experience of telling really stupid and offensive jokes and everyone's saying like dude that's not funny and because you're an asshole you can always think oh they just didn't laugh because it was you know it's a they're offended that's why I didn't love they're offended by the joke and that's what I didn't like it's actually funny yeah it's Actually it's so it's SO funny but they're just offended ended.

0:22:58 Lydia: Me mm -huh cohort mm -hum mm -hu yeah cuz it wasn't politically correct yeah yeah

0:23:30 Thomas: But meanwhile, they might've just been like, dude, that's literally not funny. That's not coherent. I don't know what the joke is. Yeah. So this is my new theory. He's never able to separate that. So every time someone's like, yeah, I don' t think that's funny.

0:23:37 Lydia: You need a workshop this more yeah

0:23:46 Thomas: He' s probably like, oh, oh wokest. It' s like, no, it' s just the language. No, it's just literally it doesn' make any sense. It's a nonsensical joke. Yeah, like literally what are you, why did you say my my thoughts. That made it even worse.

0:23:46 Lydia: Yeah yeah did I offend you yeah yeah just the way that like yeah like syntax you know like the way that you've set up this sentence structure you

0:24:03 Thomas: You're saying about your thoughts on Chris Hayes that Pete knew the pilot was a man. Okay.

0:24:07 Lydia: Know honestly like not that Rob Schneider is funny but he I think he understands a little bit more I'm not saying he's good at it how how to I would say like 80 % of the time probably structures a joke correctly.

0:24:12 Thomas: Here we go. Oh, wow. Okay, what are we doing here? Why are we going down this road?

0:24:25 Thomas: If you want to say even Rob Schneider is funnier than Greg Budfeld, I will agree with you. You don't need to go further than that, though. Yeah, no, this is the least funny. I think this isthe least funny anyone's ever been on TV. Like, that you're allowed to even be.

0:24:43 Lydia: Yeah, ooh, okay, if we put Greg Buttfeld and Bill Maher in a room together, easily, okay. Yeah.

0:24:47 Thomas: Bill Maher's funnier, easily. Easily. Bill Maer is capable of being funny. He's mostly not because his brain is melted by some of the same stuff. But he's capable of doing it. He's able of being funnier now and again.

0:24:56 Lydia: But I'm more offended by Bill Maer's audience reactions than I am with Greg Buttfelder's.

0:25:03 Thomas: I agree with that. And I'm more offended by Bill Maier just because he should know better, I think. Maybe I shouldn't expect that at that point. But that isn't to say that Bill Mayer is in any way funny. It's that this is so bad. Like, it's just not, it'S NOT ANYTHING. Like you can't even, if someone was like, is that a good joke? I'd be like, it's not, we're not even on jokes. Like we haven't gotten to joke. There's nothing. Yeah.

0:25:22 Lydia: We're on grammar and yeah

0:25:26 Thomas: And I'm not like, and it's not because I'm a wokest. It's not like that's also why it's not funny. Like, it was just not really funny to say someone looks like a woman. Like it, it, it could be, you know, Craig Ferguson used to have a funny bit. My dad would love where every time he would put up a picture of Paul McCartney at that, at, you

0:25:29 Lydia: Well you can't even get to that point yet right yeah oh

0:25:43 Thomas: Know, cause Paul was older, whatever. Uh, or sorry, every time he would talk about Paul McCartoney, who would put up a picture of Angela Lansbury, because there's like a weird resemblance between old Paul McCartney and Angela Lensbury. That's like, yeah. And like, it was just a funny recurring bit. And there wasn't that, you know, I don't think he was that serious. It wasn't like trying to denigrate Paul McCARTney or anything. It was just one of those, like, you Know, it's not like the politest of humor. Yeah.

0:25:50 Lydia: And always Angela Lansbury yeah yeah yeah yeah

0:26:08 Thomas: I could see being like, Yeah, it is. But like, It was funny. Like the visual gag was funny, yeah, like and that was funny so it's possible you can make a joke joke similar to that. You know, I could see you, even again, even though I would think it was offensive and probably not tasteful, you could make a funny joke about it,

0:26:08 Lydia: It's like like poking and in good fun yeah yeah mm

0:26:26 Thomas: But he can't. He is incapable. Oh my God. Okay. We are one minute in everybody. And we haven't even gotten to Lydia's research.

0:26:34 Lydia: 114th

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0:26:39 Thomas: Oh boy. Okay, here we go.

0:26:44 Clip: BROAD, HEXETH WILL FIND HER.

0:26:47 Thomas: What? Yeah.

0:26:48 Lydia: Yeah what this is also a former colleague of his right because Pete Hegseth used to be on

0:26:55 Thomas: So he is, I guess in fairness, he is making a joke joke about how Hegseth has been married and divorced and, and yeah, and had an affair with the whatever. Okay. If there's a broad Hegsath will find her. Okay, broad. Nobody you. What are you trying to be a cool 1950s guy? Nobody uses that. Okay? Whatever.

0:27:01 Lydia: A little bit of a womanizer potentially, yeah. Uh -huh, uh -huh. Yeah, I know.

0:27:19 Clip: I WOULDN'T EVEN HAVE COME UP WITH O'DONNELL'S OBSERVATION AS A JOKE BECAUSE IT'S TOO ON THE

0:27:25 Thomas: Oh, maybe that's because that's not what he was talking about.

0:27:27 Clip: IT'S SO ABSURD NO ONE TAKES IT AS REAL UNTIL IT BECOMES A AND THE LUNATICS GO FROM EATING PASTE IN THE ARTS AND CRAFTS RIGHT NOW THERE'S STILL EQUITY THERE ARE STILL STATES PUSHING

0:27:36 Thomas: That was you. Sorry. Equity audits and race Waste conscious hirings are so absurd that it's like you're in an insane asylum. Like it's that absurd to think, hey, maybe don't only hire white people like it's that it'S THAT crazy. Yeah, but they've pretty much gotten rid of it. It's a weird time to be leaning on that one. Yeah, yeah,

0:27:53 Lydia: Yeah, yeah yeah. Also, I guess because there's likely more than zero, he can say that.

0:28:08 Lydia: Yeah, exactly. It's very weird. Same thing with gender -affirming care. That's pretty much been wiped off. Even in California, it's really, really, hard to find. I mean, hospital systems are being sued right now by parents of trans kids.

0:28:20 Thomas: And keeping in mind, he didn't even go for the like other thing they usually go for, which is stupid and inaccurate, which is like, oh, you know, chopping the dicks off or whatever. He went for gender affirming care that's like the most broad way of that could just literally be respecting pronouns that could be like the the least you know that's not that's not absurd that's not insane to do

0:28:38 Lydia: Mm hmm. Mm hm. Yeah. Only the people eat paste would would be into that.

0:28:45 Thomas: Asshole yeah he look at his face this guy ate glue paste why is he using all these old timey words so fucking he's not not that old, but

0:28:49 Lydia: Yeah, I know. Paste. He is old. I mean, older. He's not that old. I agree.

0:28:58 Thomas: It's, I think it's part of his cultural signaling.

0:29:02 Clip: MINORS AND YOU GOT DEMS STILL PUSHING FOR REDUCED POLICE FORCES AS WELL AS FOR BANNING ICE

0:29:02 Thomas: You know, it's like this, like, yeah, anyway. Okay. Here we go.

0:29:08 Clip: IT'S WORSE UP NORTH LISTEN TO THIS NEW ACRONYM ONE OF THE CANADIAN MEMBERS OF PARLIAMENT DROPPED RECENTLY WHEN THE BUDGET WAS RELEASED I WAS SHOCKED TO FIND OUT THAT PRIME MINISTER CARNEY IS CUTTING SEVEN BILLION DOLLARS BETWEEN INDIGENOUS SERVICES CANADA AND CROWN INDIGANOUS THEY PROVIDED ZERO DOLLARS TO DEAL WITH THE ONGOING GENOCIDE OF MMIWG2SLGBTQQIA+.

0:29:10 Thomas: Worse up North. Okay, see,

0:29:43 Clip: SHE MIGHT HAVE FALLEN ASLEEP ON HER KEYBOARD, WOKE UP AND SAID,

0:29:51 Thomas: Okay. That is a crazy acronym. I'll be honest. That's a lot. That'S a lot like, okay, sure. I mean, I'm sure there's a reason at least he's in the territory of like, Yeah, you could make a joke about it because it is seems like a lot, but then he goes, you know, what was funny is when we were watching this, I almost laughed when he was like, oh, fell asleep on the keyboard, because for a second I thought he was making a bit of an absurdist joke, like she in that moment fell asleep on her keyboard, even though she's talking like that. I was like. Oh, that's kind of. Oh, then he says she woke up and said, I could use that. Why? Why would she do that? Doesn't make sense. Why would you? Why would do that she wouldn't look at that and be like, Oh, yeah, I can use that that's nothing that doesn't make any sense. Anyway, OK, hit us with the research.

0:29:58 Lydia: There's a reason. Mm -hmm. Mm. Hmm. Yeah yeah.

0:30:39 Lydia: All right. So I got some stuff for you. Canada has a historical problem with how it has treated its indigenous population. Really, really, really bad. So bad, in fact, that the majority of historians have likened Canada's treatment to this group of people as a genocide. And there's a number of different ways in which those things were enacted. One thing was called like scooping, I think, where they would just take kids from Indigenous families and put them in the residential schools where they were being abused. They had experiments that they were conducting, you know, in like the 50s and 60s regarding nutrition for Indigenous kids and explicitly like keeping them malnourished if they were in particular groups, denying them dental services as part of this.

0:31:19 Thomas: What? Oh, God.

0:31:29 Lydia: Just really, really horrible things. And like residential schools in particular, I mean, that went up till the 90s. And so Canada is like needing to reckon with a lot of this stuff. And they're trying to address all the ways that the state, right, that the entire country has wronged this group of people. And so they had a mandate for an inquiry into how women and girls had been treated specifically from indigenous groups. And so this first part of this acronym is Missing and Murdered Indigenous Women and Girls. And the mandate was initially designed to report on all forms of violence that were perpetrated against women and girls of Canada that were Indigenous. But because we're talking about not this concept of gender that's rooted in like European understanding and, you know, white understanding of gender, they found that Indigenous concepts of gender identity were incredibly broad broad and played a role in how women and girls were being treated and harmed and enduring violence, specifically that indigenous women and girls that had gone missing or experienced violence often said, like, it was because of my two -spirit identity or it was because of this other element of my identity that started that. And so they realized, like there really is a connection here and these communities as a whole were being harmed. And so it's like an intersectionality idea, right?

0:32:52 Thomas: Sure. But I'm going to stop you right there because we're we've already made his joke be stupid and not make sense. Now, you know, I get it in humor. You can you can fudge things a bit. And if this were actually a target worth going after, then maybe I could like if this was like Trump's acronym for whatever, you know like if this was a punching up I could see being like all right yeah sure but like what are we talking about first off the way he's presenting this is as though this is the new lgbtqia whatever like as though that's the new one of that like he actually says they've got a new

0:33:26 Lydia: Look at Canada. This is their new acronym.

0:33:27 Thomas: Well okay from what you've said mmiwg right that's its own acronym so that is one one acronym, which is Missing and Murdered Indigenous Women and Girls, I think you said. Okay. Do you have a big... Hey, Greg, do you have a big problem with the fact... I have a problem with the fact that it's such a common thing they had to have an acronym for it.

0:33:52 Thomas: That's not a thing. That is depressing. But I would take it up with whoever made that happen, not with the acronym lady. When you are talking about a group of Missing and Murdering Indigenous Women women and girls. And your problem is that's a lot of letters. Shut up. You fucking paste eating asshole. There you go. That's one separately from that. We've got the next thing I think which you're referencing, which is the two.

0:34:19 Lydia: This next piece which is the 2SLGBTQQIA+. So let's break that apart a little bit. 2S, two spirit. That's something that I would say in like a lot of American conversations about gender identity and sexual orientation and stuff. I don't feel like that is very mainstream. Like, we don't really talk about two -spirit, but it is very, very important, especially when we're talking about specifically Indigenous women and girls.

0:34:42 Thomas: I almost wouldn't want, you kind of wouldn't it to become like the mainstream acronym because that would seem like it would mean a lot of white people, you know?

0:34:49 Lydia: Yeah, yeah, yeah.

0:34:51 Thomas: So it's like, but you're in the context of where this would apply more.

0:34:56 Lydia: And then the remaining letters, with the exception of an additional Q, which I haven't necessarily seen before, everything else is pretty much what we would say here. Lesbian, gay, bisexual, transgender, queer, and then questioning is one that I don' t always see added. Intersex asexual plus lgbtqia plus is usually what I would say yeah

0:35:17 Thomas: Sure. I'm in on that. We've been through this. I feel like we should just a lot of people are just adopting queer. I love it. I mean, frankly, it's simpler. It's hard to get people to say stuff. So maybe go simple. I like it. But, you know, whatever. It doesn't mean that it's crazy to say all those letters.

0:35:33 Lydia: And you know there's there are some people who do like a little bit different of an acronym in this same space all advocating for the same stuff and there's a little Bit of difference there but what I think is really interesting is as I was reading the coverage on it there's A senator in canada who served as part of the inquiry kind of looking into it and she said that as they were discussing the acronym acronym that would be used for these reports and stuff, that there was a debate behind the scenes and that she personally would not be using it. But if MP Leah Gasson, who is the individual that is on that video that Greg Gutfeld played, wants to say it, just respect it. If she wants to say it the way she wants it, who am I to say she's wrong?

0:36:15 Thomas: I don't even know why. Yeah? Why was it even a thing? I mean, is it sometimes like a technical thing where it's like you're writing a report. There's gonna be jargon of any kind and there's gonna be like you're gonna be writing the same thing a million times so if you can simplify it sure like why is this even a problem

0:36:31 Lydia: There's an indigenous chief out of Manitoba that said, she calls it MMIW, just for brevity, where the I, it says the I to me represented all indigenous women and the W to me represented the female experience, whatever that is. But there's conversations about like, yeah, we might adapt it and change it and stuff and see what sticks, but no one is fighting about what that acronym is. Yeah. Quote, I think she and others are doing what they see is best and anyone who criticizes it clearly doesn't understand the issue yeah

0:36:52 Thomas: No one's making you say this or something no one it's just yeah it's nothing yeah this is none of his or frankly my business like they're they're communicating what they need to communicate to whom they need to communicate it and this is the way they want to do it and it's not there's not it's It's not even crazy. It's like there's no sense in which this is really worthy of criticism.

0:37:20 Lydia: It's frustrating too because you know you get this clip out there and it's circulated on twitter of course and I think it's up to like 94 million views which you know again you

0:37:29 Thomas: I bet they have to milk it.

0:37:31 Lydia: Hovered for a second as you scrolled elon musk retweeted it and said canada is cooked ted cruz retweetED it and

0:37:42 Thomas: Because someone said some letters, guys.

0:37:44 Lydia: SAID the mental institutions were closed far too quickly and

0:37:45 Thomas: Fucking crybabies. Fuck you. I'm so sick of it.

0:37:48 Lydia: And I THINK what is like so sad about that too is it's we you're losing sight of what the The issue is that she was speaking about there because you were focused so much on this acronym that that becomes the conversation instead of seeing, oh, Canada as a country is basically threatening to sunset billions of dollars in funding for efforts to right the wrongs that they have done to these groups. And, you know, basically sunset services for indigenous populations as a result. Sunset, you know, these various programs and research and studies that they were trying to do to make up for the 150 years that people have been harmed and to address the ongoing issues of indigenous women being killed or taken.

0:38:38 Lydia: Human trafficking, right? All coming back. All coming And so that's really, really frustrating. I will say that from what I've seen from the members of the government in Canada that are part of this effort, they don't really care that people are making fun of the acronym or anything like that. They're like, no, our focus is remaining on the fact that this money is being threatened or that it's making it feel like if the tribes don't do exactly what the Canadian government wants them to do, that they will continue to risk losing funding and sort of the relationship between tribes and the state in that way. So, you know, it's a serious conversation that they're having and they're not getting deterred by the nonsense language that Gutfeld decides to jump on or Elon Musk, you know, one of the richest men in the world, decides that is worthy of talking about.

0:38:40 Thomas: Hey, we are doing human trafficking. That's good. Yeah. Yeah.

0:39:26 Thomas: That's the point, though. That's broadly speaking, obviously, I'm not telling you anything you don't know, but the The point is to not have to contend with that.

0:39:27 Lydia: Yeah, it is. Mm -hmm.

0:39:35 Thomas: You know, that's the goal. The goal is to not have to ever deal with anything that might be uncomfortable in any way for these people or deal with anything that might be a criticism of them or anything that might be someone needing to change their behavior. The goal is to seize on words and language games and bullshit to be able to just, yeah, to be able to just ignore it. And it's anti -intellectual. It's stupid. You could almost say it's something the paste -eating kid in the back of the class would do because Because Gutfeld, I guarantee, probably not a good student.

0:39:53 Lydia: The lowest hanging fruit. Yeah. Yeah. Yes. Mm -huh.

0:40:06 Thomas: I shouldn't guarantee that. Sometimes they are, and they're just evil. But yeah, anti -intellectual.

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0:40:15 Clip: BUT LADY, CAN YOU SAY THAT AGAIN SO I CAN WRITE IT DOWN?

0:40:31 Thomas: What?

0:40:34 Lydia: Yeah, I don't know.

0:40:35 Thomas: Now I got to change my password to Pornhub. Why? It's so bad. It's just so fucking low effort. Look, I guess the password thing is like, okay, fine. That's kind of a thing. Then the PornHub part is just to try to evoke a laugh out of that topic. Because there's no logical connection. So it's like, why would you specifically have that as your Pornhub password? There's just nothing. There's nothing here. This is all stupid. God, fuck you. Okay, here we go.

0:41:05 Lydia: This freaking guy.

0:41:07 Clip: That Canadian acronym from that creep so horrible because it's front loaded with people who experience actual suffering missing or dead girls, but then it's strapped to a train of imposters leeching off their suffering stolen valor but reworked as stolen victimhood. It's far worse than schools. Listen to this Canadian professor. I have worked with four and five year olds in schools who have genders that their parents don't want them to have parents rights have suddenly been weaponized against

0:41:17 Thomas: You'd almost say it was two different acronyms, wouldn't you?

0:41:20 Lydia: Mm -mm. Stolen valor.

0:41:36 Clip: Against trans and non-binary and two-spirit youth. I want us to get really comfortable with challenging right-wing Christian patriarchy. You can do work around sexual orientation and gender diversity with children of all ages. And so I want this to think about these conversations

0:41:57 Thomas: The person speaking, listeners, is overweight. Okay, you ready? You ready for the comedy? Guys, you're ready for comedy? You want some comedy? Ready for laughs?

0:42:05 Lydia: Brace yourselves.

0:42:14 Clip: Of course you do, you sick, fat . I'M SORRY, SENSORS, BUT I'M I'D ASK WHAT THEY'RE PUTTING IN THE WATER IN CANADA, BUT CLEARLY WHEN IT SHOULD BE THORAZINE.

0:42:39 Thomas: What?

0:42:39 Clip: LET'S NOT FORGET THE HOT TREND IN

0:42:44 Lydia: Disgusting. Just vile. Yeah.

0:42:46 Thomas: What a fucking asshole like what just fundamentally fuck you beyond anything else politics aside even just fuck you nobody if imagine if he did this in public I mean he's at his little show there's a there's an audience does he think people on the right aren't overweight do you think there's nobody in magatown it's got a little bit of a weight problem them you think that's a I think that'S a joke that all all you know it'S just it'S there'S so much wrong with it obviously but like fundamentally just fuck you you miserable fucking gargoyle you fucking asshole like it'S it'S jUsT he doesn'T even have anything to say like listen to the I mean you obviously we can assume he'S also going to be mad about a teacher whoever that is is potentially being at all concerned with like parents who are obviously bigots and aren't going to be open to whatever their kids are doing. You know, that's a concern. That's something you should be concerned with. It's not crazy to be concerned about it. He can't even muster like anything related to that. He doesn't even, I don't want to play it again, but like, cause it's just awful. I'll look back at the transcript. Here's the things that aren't insults about this person's body. Of course you do. That that's it. That't it. Of Of course you do.

0:44:08 Lydia: Is that it? Oh, my God. I was waiting for more.

0:44:11 Thomas: That's the only response. And you could argue, actually, that is still part of the body shaming joke, because it's, of course, you do, you fat person, essentially. So, I mean, you could almost argue there's no part of it that is a response to what that person, who's probably a very caring person who's dealing with children, you know, and trying to keep them safe. No part of his response bears any resemblance to anything like a response of that in any way.

0:44:39 Thomas: It's just, it's pathetic. What if you're at a party? I mean, imagine I'm at a party. He's going on TV on this highest rated whatever show. You know, they're apparently three million people watch or whatever. It's got those numbers. I guarantee you he would not do this at a gathering of people like an actual these people know what they're doing is wrong and they think it's so naughty and they love it. They love that they can do whatever and they can they can trigger the libs or whatever by being. But the thing you're doing Is not something you would even do in your own company like your own asshole company I guarantee it we're actually we watched this and we were actually like stunned I couldn't even yeah like we couldn't Even what do you even say like it's we've

0:45:12 Lydia: Yeah I just I was absolutely shocked. Like how do you react to that?

0:45:22 Thomas: Gotten to the point where it's just no you're fat to put it lightly just insults overweight and that's it like it for a while he just goes on that that takes looking at the timing I mean that takes like 15 seconds

0:45:35 Lydia: It's also just yeah, Yeah. Just some of the most vile things that you can say about another human, like the number of times that he calls that person repulsive really is so awful. Yeah.

0:45:45 Thomas: It's despicable yeah it's Just it's beneath contempt it's It's just, I can't even, we can't be entertaining this. We can't by allowing this. You know, it's one thing, you know, again, I'm not a roasty comedy guy. I don't really like it. It's one think if you were in a roast environment or something, because, you know, inevitably, these people always try to make it about free speech or something. No one's saying you couldn't ever make a joke about weight. You know? I try not to because I don' t think, you kno, it' s like I' ve grown to where I I do my best to try not to do too much joking about anyone's appearance, you know, and some sometimes you slip up. But, you Know, I think I've done a pretty good job recently. Like it's not it's Not worth it. Like there's no because it's always going to be yes, the person you're focusing on. Yeah, it's the insults going to hit them, but it also hits a bunch of bystanders and that's just not fun.

0:46:15 Lydia: I don't think they're really funny. Mm -hmm. Mm -huh.

0:46:35 Thomas: Like, you Now, and it's something that is a mistake that I've certainly made in the past, but It's not something I want to intentionally try to do now, but that isn't to say there's no possibility that someone could make a weight joke. Joke nobody's gonna outlaw that you know like you're still allowed to make the fucking jokes but this is just something else entirely this is sick like this is like he loses his mind yeah

0:46:55 Lydia: Yeah, it really does feel like he flies off the deep end with this. And it's so interesting, too, because I was reading his interview with the New York Times from last year, and he's like well I you know I'll call people fat because they call me hitler but I don't you know and and I was like well this person didn't call you hitler it's

0:47:13 Thomas: Now just anyone probably called him hitler yeah you don't understand someone has called him hitler so now I get

0:47:14 Lydia: Just that the woke has called him hitler and so now

0:47:19 Thomas: To say that's how it works if anyone's ever said anything mean to me or that I think is unreasonable I can I can say anything I want to literally anyone is justified that's how it

0:47:19 Lydia: Whatever I want yeah that cannot be the society that we live in you guys yeah

0:47:29 Thomas: Works yeah it really can't it's just it's just I mean it's pathetic like this is just truly truly pathetic it's almost like can't even be mad like he needs help you know like this is just like truly there's something wrong with you it's just it was just disgusting I can't I'm still shocked like genuinely shocked by that most watched late -night fucking thing guys this is the world this is the world we've allowed I don't think it's our fault I think there's a lot of of things there's a lot of wealth that's gone into and buying misinformation constant constant fucking demonization of people that's led to it but we just enough we can't do

0:47:42 Lydia: Screw loose yeah yeah like just I just keep thinking about it it's like Like, is his life better because he can say that kind of thing about another person? Like, what's the freaking point? And then I think about like Artemis 2 and this like shared humanity and these astronauts that went out into space and they're like, they look down at the planet and they are like, you know, it kind of reaffirms your idea of humanity and what it should be. And then we experienced Greg Gutfeld. And it's just the stark contrast between those two things is just mind boggling to me. And I don't want this to be the way it is.

0:48:15 Thomas: It yeah yeah and

0:48:50 Lydia: Mm -hmm.

0:48:50 Thomas: There is a marked difference too because like my parents obviously weren't super cool my parents would probably joke about someone's weight but even them they would never like even just again people who now we we definitely look back on and like well they were definitely wrong don't get me me wrong my parents were wrong for many reasons but even if you're like oh you know my old family member you know would probably make a joke about someone's weight even they would never do this even my parents would know that like okay but it's really fundamentally cruel to like publicly do that to somebody like you know I just I'm trying to make the point that like nobody's perfect like that's that's the thing is like I think and a lot of what this reactionary reaction is, is to a perception that the wokest are demanding perfection from everybody.

0:49:30 Thomas: And I guess I don't speak for all the wokests, of course, or maybe any of them. But for me, I'm not demanding perfection for anybody.

0:49:39 Lydia: Mm -hum.

0:49:39 Thomas: But there's common decency. And this is just a new level. I mean, you could be a fat phobic person, which I think is very wrong. You could be be a fat phobic person and still recognize that like, okay, but that's cruel. Like that's awful what he's doing. You know, like that's just, that's просто evil. Like it's just truly evil.

0:49:59 Lydia: And I'm sorry to say, because you didn't watch the whole clip, it gets worse.

0:50:02 Thomas: Oh my God. There's more.

0:50:03 Lydia: He and a panelist go into it in disgusting ways. Disgusting towards the end. I don'T even know if we should play any of that, but...

0:50:12 Thomas: Well, yeah, we'll see how far we get. Oh my gosh. It's already. Wow. We're already like out of time. We got nowhere in this. Jesus Christ.

0:50:18 Lydia: I know, and I didn't even get to talk about the panel that that professor was speaking at and some of the great clips from there. I think we might have to wait till next time.

0:50:23 Thomas: Oh, my God, honestly, we did not plan this to go. Like we're already, how, how did we already go an hour? I didn't, I feel like I barely started. What the fuck?

0:50:33 Lydia: Yeah. Yeah. I mean, how many minutes are we in this thing? Four.

0:50:38 Thomas: We are four minutes in. Should we play a little more or what? Do we need to sign out?

0:50:42 Lydia: I think we got to sign out because I don't want to move on without being able to address this panel. Yeah.

0:50:44 Thomas: Yeah, that's true. Oh, that is a good point. Well, fuck. Okay, well, thank you for the debunks and there is more debunks to come. We did not intend this to be more than one part, but I mean, that that's just truly flabbergasting. Can you be flabergasting? It can, right? Right.

0:51:01 Lydia: Why not?

0:51:02 Thomas: It's truly I did not know this amount of time because I'm just so disgusted and enraged that I went into a fugue state. I don't I can't believe I didn't mess up. Right. We have gone like that. OK, well, folks, we mentioned it, I think. Was it on the show or GG? We mentioned we're, you know, a regular show. OK. Yeah. And part of that is that we have the time we've budgeted to be able to get these out regularly.

0:51:19 Lydia: I think I'm going to sign off. I think it's done it on both. Yeah, and no more.

0:51:26 Thomas: And I certainly I certainly anticipate it. Yeah, exactly. It it's really hard. We are doing the schedule but it does mean that it's a tight schedule we've gone the time we had allotted for this we meant to get to more but we we got a couple good debunks from lydia and there's more to come but fuck this fucking guy in his dumb fucking face I I just just fuck off man like I truly someone should punch this guy in the face like like really I mean it's anti -social behavior like this is just the kind of thing that does deserve a punch in the fit I'm not saying anyone should do it but it

0:51:43 Lydia: Piece of shit. Yes. Yes. But it's deserving of it. Yeah?

0:52:01 Thomas: Should be done yeah like it like he he deserves to be punched in the face I'm not saying anyone should because I don't know anyone who deserves to punch him in the face you know it's like I who who is anyone to dole out judgment but if he got punched in the face it would be warranted and that's lydia she's like the yeah it's just it's just you need to be reminded that there is such a thing as a fucking society you know you've gotten too confident, you know, in your whole, like when you go to this level of like horrific body shaming insults, you got to be ready to put up with what that would give you in public in person. You know, there's a, yeah. Yeah. Find it. Find someone, find an overweight dude to say that to, you Know, just, just see you're so tough. You're such a tough fucking guy over there with your things. You can say that you're just not worried about triggering anybody. Go try it. Just say it in public, you know? Yeah, just do it. See what, yeah, why not? Just fucking cowards, all of them assholes. God, I'm mad. This is the, that's the worst thing I've seen in a long time. Jeez. Oh, wow.

0:52:04 Lydia: Yeah, right. Yes, I 100 % agree. I don t like violence at all or conflict even yep yeah yeah go ahead and say it out loud in public and see what people do yeah go for it greg yeah without security guards see what happens yeah part two's gonna get pretty gross too because they're gonna bring in the rest of the panel and yeah

0:53:11 Thomas: All right, folks. Well, yeah. We'll, we'll get that out. Uh, maybe we can get out early for patrons. We will shoot for it, but, uh, yeah., the schedule is the schedule now. Normally at the end of the month, you'd be getting these right away, all crammed at the end of month, but you know, there's trade -offs. I think the regular schedule is good. It's It's definitely going to be better for, uh, for everybody, I think, but you know, not like there isn't some trade -off to it.

0:53:31 Lydia: I know know people who like they're binging

0:53:33 Thomas: They like their binging. Yeah. That's the trade -offs. All right. Thanks so much. Wokies. We appreciate you. Punch your local buttfeld. Everyone punched their local buttfield. Punch your vocal butt. Oh, wow. Fucking loser.

0:53:42 Lydia: I'm making merch I'm putting I'm writing that down right now punch your local buttfeld exactly and I could do like a little silhouette of his face so then we know it's greg gutfeld but it says buttfeld so yes

0:53:58 Thomas: Thanks for listening, everyone. We'll see you soon.

0:54:22 Thomas: That's right. Great buttfelds. I feel like you could just jump off a bridge and fucking die. That's what I feel. Like you could do if you were Greg Budfeld, maybe. So you can't quite say about Chris Hayes that Pete knew the pilot was a male guys.

0:54:38 Lydia: You know honestly like not Not that Rob Schneider is funny.

0:54:43 Thomas: You ready for comedy? You want some, you want some comedy ready for laughs.