Trump hosts (and dozes through) absolutely unhinged Antifa Round Table

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0:00:10 Thomas: Hello and welcome to Opening Arguments. This is back to the vapid response format, I think. I'm Thomas Smith. That over there is the force ghost of Matt Cameron projected from that planet that Luke was hanging out on, I guess. I think, how are you doing?

0:00:26 Matt: This subject took me out. I am dead. That's it. No, we're here to talk about a very grave made -up threat to our nation. So can't wait to get into it.

0:00:36 Thomas: Always love that. And Lydia, how are you doing?

0:00:38 Lydia: I'm doing okay I'm feeling spooked out by Matt but I think that the stuff we're going to be covering is spookier

0:00:43 Thomas: He's not a spooky ghost. He's a friendly ghost. Yeah. There's a ghost, you there are the spooky ghosts and then there's a friendly ghost, yeah.

0:00:45 Lydia: He's friendly yeah like the Casper type yeah

0:00:53 Thomas: Yeah and never the twain shall or is maybe force ghost is a third this is a ghost trinary system here because uh either way he's friendly and he's a force ghost uh something happened with matt's camera we don't know what it's we can't figure it out it's the weirdest thing but uh did our best and uh he's just looking a little shinier than normal or he might be that shiny in real life like maybe his camera's finally working right now

0:01:01 Lydia: Interesting interesting yeah the show must go on yeah yeah and we finally see him for who he is yeah

0:01:21 Thomas: When people run into you on the street or that, boy, you're really shiny and almost translucent.

0:01:27 Matt: Does explain why everybody in my office wears sunglasses all the time. Well,

0:01:33 Thomas: Accidentally cook like microwave popcorn just by standing near it? It just goes off. Good times. No, I'm excited. Why don't you give us a little preview? What vapid nonsense are we responding to today?

0:01:47 Matt: I'm the ghost of democracy's future, apparently. That is what we are talking about about here. On October 7th, Donald Trump held a roundtable for very important and very well respected journalists, 8 out of 11 of which are associated with Turning Point USA, to let us know about the very incredibly real threat of capital A Antifa to the United States. So we're going to start out with a little amused douche from Marshall Blackburn in Tennessee telling us why this is very real. And then we'll just get right into it. And yeah, we've got a lot to cover here. And I also want to take a moment to explain legally why I think this is actually really important we're not just responding to idiots we're responding to dangerous idiots uh who are saying a dangerous thing that's

0:02:26 Thomas: Good to get some law in the show. That's important. I do want to cover that.

0:02:30 Matt: What I'm here for yeah

0:02:31 Thomas: Also we have our, uh, patrons to thank, right? Should we get to that or do we need to do any other previewing? Let's do it. All right, well, we're going to thank our patrons on patreon .com slash lot of love doing these shout outs. People change their names or they don't. Both are great. Speaking of different kinds of ghosts, it's also the two patron system, uh. Veterinary for America, 2028, one man, one vote. Unremarkable. Amina. Donna Treadway, mother of Herodins. Protect trans kids deep space nine was the best star trek mike lapinski won't lovers revolt now that's a really

0:02:33 Lydia: Let's do it let's no patrons patrons oh interesting

0:03:05 Thomas: Good one that's it that's I had to like double check I was like is that really how have I not come across yeah

0:03:07 Lydia: That also feels like like a call to action a bit too like if you're a lover then you should also be part of the revolution or something interesting

0:03:15 Thomas: It's perfect it's brilliant how have we never come across this uh what's a face palindrome yeah cyanitis normalized bi -directional spooning it's funny every time Charlie Kelly, attorney at Bird Law. Fourth Circuit attorney, reluctantly changing her font. Apprentice of Adventure. Probably a real person. Nick Fish, who was just on Serious Inquiries Only.

0:03:22 Lydia: Palindrome yeah man

0:03:38 Thomas: Really interesting interview with Nick Fish. Check that out.

0:03:38 Lydia: Yeah and talking about non -profit organizations in the wake of trump's administration kind of of cracking down on what we're going to be talking about today, potentially funding domestic terrorists.

0:03:49 Thomas: It's really interesting. Yeah, he was a great interview. Nick is great, and I'm glad people like Nick and other people running organizations are thinking of how to stay one step ahead of this fascism. If there's a lot more you would think that you can do, maybe to be prepared for the different levels of fascism that might come your way if you run an organization like that, or if you're a part of one, or honestly, there's even some advice in there for just if like just normal people, because yeah, it's really, really interesting. So anyway, unfrozen caveman lawyer, how many chunks would a chunk hunk thunk if a chunk hunk could thunk chunks?

0:04:16 Lydia: Just basic security.

0:04:27 Thomas: Yeah, that one surprised me. I started going into like the, what it was before and David Souther, or I think that's how you pronounce that. Um, thank you so much patrons. They make the show happen. That's at patreon .com slash law. Love doing these shout outs. Always a good time. And with that, we'll go to our first quick break for listeners and then we'll be right to it. Okay, let's go to our, Matt, you have the perfect name for this, of course. Our first segment?

0:04:24 Lydia: Oh, wait. Oh my god. Wait.

0:04:53 Matt: Our amused douche featuring Tennessee Senator Marsha Blackburn with a very real concern about an extremely real thing that exists. Let's fire it up.

0:05:02 Thomas: Could be so many things. Here we go.

0:05:04 Clip: And there are some Democrats that say it's time for this to be put aside and get back to work. There's a report left -wing Antifa agitators are posting a hit list of reporters in Portland following the assassination of Charlie Kirk.

0:05:20 Thomas: I'm going to go ahead and say

0:05:21 Clip: How alarming is that?

0:05:19 Lydia: Hit list

0:05:21 Thomas: False. How will, God, they're not even, it's so low effort propaganda. There's a report that they're killing the dolphins and your children. Would that be bad or good that's bad god it's like you know the boys the show the boys a lot of that satire is pretty good but then it also like we just got unsatirizable and it just became increasingly hard to even do the bit

0:05:35 Matt: That sucks, right?

0:05:50 Lydia: If if this were the show they'd be like you jump the shark

0:05:54 Clip: It is terribly alarming. And for people that say Antifa does not exist, you know, that is beyond me. Me. You do have this organization.

0:06:06 Clip: They are very well funded. And you have these antifa cells.

0:06:10 Matt: That's not true.

0:06:11 Clip: And for them to be producing hit list is indeed alarming.

0:06:05 Thomas: It does exist Antifa sales wait cells oh

0:06:16 Clip: And, you know, Mike, one of the things that does concern me is the uptick in violence against federal law enforcement in ICE. You know, that's increased over 8 ,000 percent this year. And I have that protecting protecting law enforcement from Doxing Act, which we are trying to get through Senate Judiciary Committee, that needs to get to President Trump's desk. So we do name it a felony and go after these individuals that are doxing law enforcement in their families. Okay. Some of

0:06:13 Matt: I thought we

0:06:13 Lydia: Sells yeah all

0:06:28 Matt: Were talking about journalists.

0:06:52 Lydia: Right

0:06:52 Clip: Your colleagues think they've uncovered it.

0:06:53 Lydia: We're gonna call it there um I just I have to chime in on this eight thousand percent figure before we talk about the hit list so this is tied to like literally just a press statement from DHS. As recently as like two weeks ago, there was a congressional hearing in which Alex Padilla was requesting, his office was requesting the data behind that number, as well as a statement where they said that assaults against ICE law enforcement has...

0:07:19 Thomas: Matt, is the ghost police coming after you? Have you kept up with all the ghost regulations

0:07:23 Matt: I've escaped containment. You can only evade the Ghostbusters for so long.

0:07:30 Thomas: That... Yeah, they come and set the trap under Matt. It's like, well, he had it coming.

0:07:34 Lydia: Who are you going to call? Um so they like as recently as you know earlier or I guess in november they were saying that assaults were up um one thousand one hundred and fifty percent and so alex padilla had requested like we'd like the data the source data for this because they're like data indicates you know our most recent report indicates you can't find that anywhere I searched their website um they have data available but it's not that data and

0:08:00 Thomas: My God. Maybe it's wherever they put all the economic report, the jobs numbers and stuff like that.

0:08:01 Lydia: But like I mean you have you have a senator requesting that data, and they refuse to hand anything over. They're just not doing it. So he actually, in that congressional hearing, he basically said that he would not be participating in this charade as part of his opening statement. He closed his binder and walked out. So good for him.

0:08:22 Lydia: He also tried to point out that if this were an actual hearing that they were doing about, quote, the radical left's crusade against immigration enforcement, They would have had witnesses that are like government officials speaking to what's going on. But instead, they had a sheriff from Texas. They had the vice president of this organization called Chicago Flips Red. And they had a journalist from the Washington Examiner. Those were their witnesses for that hearing.

0:08:22 Matt: Good stuff.

0:08:51 Lydia: It was not Andy Ngo. It was Mia Cathel.

0:08:50 Thomas: Wasn't Andy. No, that's so weird. He

0:08:54 Lydia: So, yeah, exactly.

0:08:54 Thomas: Must have been busy in a different congressional thing. They're like, I can't be everywhere at once doing all

0:08:59 Lydia: I'm so in demand. Yeah.

0:08:59 Thomas: The fucking fake Antifa bullshit.

0:09:01 Lydia: Oh, we're going to talk about Andy Nho in a minute.

0:09:02 Thomas: I also have a very

0:09:03 Matt: Oh, we sure are.

0:09:03 Thomas: Important point since we were doing the amuse douche. Why do we use the insult of a charade? You know, because charades is delightful. I feel like if it was like a charades would be like, there's a real problem, but you have to to get people to guess what, okay, three syllables. Let's see. Yeah. Is fascism three syllables or two fascism?

0:09:11 Lydia: That's true.

0:09:11 Matt: Those are fun. Yeah, it's true.

0:09:21 Lydia: It's a movie.

0:09:22 Thomas: Is it three? Yeah. It's like, I'm not participating in this charade. Just say fascism. You know, it's like it's fun.

0:09:28 Lydia: That's fair. Yeah.

0:09:30 Thomas: Anyway, important point I wanted to make.

0:09:32 Lydia: But because we can't get the data anywhere just very, very quickly, the LA Times actually reported on this yesterday. I'll include this in the show notes. They tried to look into it and tried to like recreate the data by looking at just the court cases that have been coming up. And yeah, that is fake. This is not real.

0:09:32 Matt: Well, yeah, sure.

0:09:50 Thomas: Why? Hey, smart people, why are you wasting time doing anything like that? Like, there's no point. Here's what's going to happen. I hate to, you know, bash journalists who are probably working hard. Aren't what is the fucking best outcome of that endeavor that you're doing oh we'll issue reports saying well this is unsubstantiated really the shit they're spewing from fascist regime is unsubstandiated wow that's gonna do it why are you wasting your time why are we all wasting our time with stuff like that

0:10:12 Lydia: I mean I I think it's worthwhile to have it documented for history like I I I think that's okay

0:10:19 Thomas: It's true that's true they should just be dming like the future you know like hey no one gives a shit about this now but I'm just putting it in a time capsule so yeah

0:10:24 Lydia: But yeah but I mean as part of it like they reach out also to dhs for comment and stuff and you just get the same like stupid press statements and like no data again

0:10:31 Thomas: I hope when they reach out they're just like hey you just tell me a quick lie I'm just gonna document it what's what's the lie for this one okay that's fucking stupid all right I'll write it down yeah

0:10:41 Lydia: And in this article friend of the show charis cooburn was actually quoted. So I just wanted to give her a little shout out, too. She's the individual for Wrap on Trial that you guys covered way back when. And she said, this is what we call in sociology a moral panic. A moral panic is created when statistics and other things are used to kind of create or socially construct a problem that is bigger than it is. So just kind of calling out what the administration is doing here.

0:11:06 Thomas: My only my only qualm there is that we're we're in like 17 layers of moral panic already it's kind of you know this is like a sub sub sub moral panic of the the immigration one and then the ice one and then the cities are going to crazy one and like it's but I guess yeah it's still true it's all part of it

0:11:25 Lydia: I know. It's so many. But yeah, Yeah. So that 8 ,000 % stupid and then this 1150 % is also stupid.

0:11:32 Matt: Well, this number has been inflating all year of course, but I just want to point out that the official voice of Antifa, National Public Radio, has come out with its own numbers and has determined that assaults against law enforcement federally have been about 25 percent higher. I'm not very good at math, but I think 25 percent, thousand percent is a little bit of wiggle room in between those those two uh so oh

0:11:50 Lydia: And also when you think about like just number of, I or whatever, right? Like that's also climb. So you'd have to like control for everything, right. You would have to basically normalized your data sets between those two periods of time.

0:12:01 Thomas: It's way more interactions it's also their classifying stuff anything is a whatever and what I think is funny is if you keep going to those big percentages pretty soon there's gonna be more ice than there are atoms in the universe like you can't it can't be a thousand percent month over month for that long like Like you can get one big jump from changing the tracking, but pretty soon then just everybody's ice. I'm ice. You're ice. We're all ice. We're hitting each other. And then that's like adding up, you know, it's like, stop icing yourself ice. It's like it's that you can't be a thousand percent every month. Sorry. It's not going to happen.

0:12:07 Lydia: Assaults. That's a big thing. AssAULT's been classified like crazy.

0:12:07 Matt: It's anecdotal yeah right sure

0:12:17 Lydia: Yeah, yeah, yeah...

0:12:27 Matt: Yeah well it's anecdotal it turns out but I do want to point out before we move on opening arguments has obtained the exclusive hit list you want to put that up on the screen uh because it turns out

0:12:40 Lydia: Pull that up. Here it is.

0:12:41 Thomas: Whoa, sweet. All right. Everyone take a name, commit a murder, buy a weapon, get ready. Anyway, and I'm now under arrest.

0:12:47 Matt: Or actually maybe follow what it says on the list

0:12:50 Thomas: Matt, can they arrest ghosts? Oh, that we can't. We covered that. They can't arrest ghosts. So be careful you're not you're not free from it either

0:12:54 Matt: It's true you

0:12:56 Lydia: That's why we heard the sirens earlier.

0:12:57 Matt: Got

0:12:58 Thomas: Yeah alright here we go I

0:12:58 Matt: To see this actual list though now Now, so first of all, B -O -L -O, as in be on the lookout, and it lists, first of all, people who have actually had actual criminal charges who are dangerous because they're going around assaulting people. But check out, as you scroll down, the really pertinent part on the left side, makes it the opposite of a hit list.

0:13:16 Thomas: I thought I had it all figured out with my methods here but it was a bad method keep talking I'll get it figured out

0:13:22 Matt: As you'll see, there's a good reason that you actually want to know. And as we'll continue to talk about this through the roundtable, we're going to talk about their tactics and how they do things. But of course, these people are provocateurs. That's what they do. They go in and try to start shit.

0:13:32 Lydia: And washington examiner called this a hit list so then everybody else has been calling it a hitlist they also described these pictures as wanted style photographs but as you can see it's clearly just a polaroid frame time.

0:13:46 Thomas: Let's look at this one wanted honey badger mom is that a wanted photograph here let me just

0:13:51 Matt: You can't even say that they doxed her. I don't even know what her name is.

0:13:53 Thomas: Zoom in wanted style photograph here I'll give it a little more zoom oh yeah that's exactly how they do it oh whoops I got my layers messed up here the is this guy is that is the harold spith one does that how to take wanted pictures yeah do

0:14:00 Matt: The BC preacher. It's his best angle. Try scrolling down because you have to see what it actually says on the left side there, because that is the pertinent part that makes it the opposite of a hit list. This is specifically a do not hit list it's saying Dang. That, too.

0:14:18 Thomas: Not yeah I wouldn't hit that list all right I think I got uh here we go I think I got it so I can maybe scroll sorry about that back up

0:14:28 Lydia: All right. There it is. Oh, no. Scroll back up tiny a little bit. Yeah right there. There. Do not take the bait. Do. Not.

0:14:37 Matt: So, Periods after each word.

0:14:37 Thomas: They will try yeah do not seek the treasure they will travel to different cities in order to create content that fits their narrative don't give it to them hold on also murder them oh yeah I see it it's in small fine print pathetic

0:14:37 Lydia: Take. The. Bait.

0:14:51 Matt: Asterisk, footnote.

0:14:52 Lydia: So Andy Ngo, you know, obviously anyone who ended up on this list was tweeting about it because it's also a way for them to get people to start following them and subscribe to them and give them money, right? Because they're under attack. Andy Nge tweeted about this and said, a trans activist in Portland has put out a hit list graphic of me and others putting me at the, and they had like another thing that isn't shown here here on this hit list, putting me at the highest threat level and suggesting others take action. Suggesting others take actions.

0:15:19 Thomas: What threat hold on do you see threat levels

0:15:21 Lydia: It's a different thing where they have these specific zoom -ins on particular people. But the suggesting others to take action, it's specifically telling people not to take actions, so I don't know. It is just so silly.

0:15:21 Thomas: Here Oh, different. Oh, okay. Gotcha. Sure. Mm -hmm. Yeah, it's so funny.

0:15:38 Lydia: Jonathan Cho chimed in on this too in the coverage he's listed on here and said, I actually kind of laughed because this is now like the seventh hit list I've been on in the past three months. Whether it's Seattle or Portland, it seems like my face is everywhere now. And it's due to the coverage that I've been doing now for the past five years of far left activism, especially Antifa violence.

0:16:03 Matt: As we'll see. So these are the kinds of people we're going to be talking about today, these people on this do not hit list. And their whole deal is just getting up on faces and making trouble and trying to get the footage they want, just as it says in this poster. So I would advise to do what but it says in the poster, don't interact with them, ignore them, leave them alone.

0:16:19 Matt: But I'm sure Marsha Blackburn hadn't actually seen this. It doesn't matter. She's just going to say what she's going to say, but I thought everybody else should see it.

0:16:25 Thomas: Absolute losers.

0:16:25 Lydia: In the same way that she parroted the 8 ,000 % data point when the data doesn't even exist as far as we know right

0:16:33 Matt: Yeah. But there's a good reason that they need this narrative. So we should talk about that very quickly. I've sent you a couple of links here so that we can pull that up and show everybody just so you know, I'm not making this up. We've talked about this on opening arguments before, but I really want to stress this point about how much they need to make this up and why they're doing it and the consequences, what it means for us. There are two different things. There's an executive order and there's a national security memo. You can just pull them up there in the list we have them. But the first thing that they did was designate Antifa a domestic terror organization, capital A Antifa, which does not exist. Antifa is a set of ideologies, a small case A. There is no capital A, Antifa. And there is also, coincidentally, no such thing as a domestic terrorist organization. That is not a designation within U .S. law. There There's a foreign terror organization, which they tried, Bill Barr tried in the first term. In the very end, like right before January 6th, they tried to designate Antifa as a foreign terrorist organization.

0:17:28 Matt: But this EO from September 22nd, 2025 is pretty scary. It's actually not as scary as the next thing we're going to look at. But if you scroll down a little bit, you'll see Antifa is a militant anarchist enterprise that explicitly calls for the overthrow of the United States government. Again, it's not, and enterprise is the best they can do because it's Not an entity. It's not an LLC. It's Not a nonprofit. Profit. It's not receiving funding or holding money. It is just a series of tactics that have been used successfully around the world since the 30s to stop the kinds of things we're seeing in this country right now.

0:17:58 Matt: It recruits, trains, and radicalizes young Americans. You can see the whole thing. Because of that, they're going to designate them as domestic terrorists, which again doesn't exist, but essentially is authorizing, if you scroll a little bit further, for the FBI to do do extra surveillance to treat them basically as suspect, anybody who's involved in this kind of stuff. And we're going to bring it home in the next one. You'll see why this really matters so much. But utilize all applicable authorities to investigate, disrupt, and dismantle any and all illegal operations, especially those involving terrorist action, which can be very broadly interpreted, as we'll see in the last thing. And material support, which again can include providing literature, providing advice, lawyering. So necessary, investigatory, Very prescriptive.

0:18:39 Thomas: Now, what's different here, Matt? Because I know we've covered this in the past, and it feels like they've been trying to do this kind of thing for a while. What's new with this particular iteration?

0:18:48 Matt: Well, if you designate it as a priority for the Federal Bureau of Investigation, and then it becomes something that becomes a pretext for following people around, for getting warrants potentially, for surveilling without warrants. But let's go to the next one. You can see the definition, how bad this is. I just wanted to set this up before we look at the round table, because you're going to hear a lot of nonsense at the around table. The next thing is the national security memo. I'm sure maybe you've heard something about this. I read it the day it came out and I had a little trouble sleeping afterward. Honestly, I usually have some trouble sleeping, but it was worse than usual. I mean, this is really terrifying. This is not an executive order. It's a national security memo, which sets the priorities for the national security state. And it defines Antifa in a way that should scare everybody. Because again, remember, this is not a group that exists. It is very easy to define Al -Qaeda or the American Communist Party or whatever else you want to do. But when you create a group, it is not the group that doesn't exist. And you define it the way that it's being defined here. It could pretty much be anybody watching or listening to this. Countering Domestic Terrorism and Organized Political Violence. This came out a few days after the executive order we just looked at. So if we get a little further, I just keep scrolling, scrolling, and scrolling. I'd like to have Lydia read the pertinent part because it needs to

0:19:59 Matt: Be read out loud.

0:19:59 Thomas: Weird formatting.

0:20:00 Matt: Yeah, this is typical White House formatting. This became out after the Kirk assassination. Then we have the 1 ,000 % increase in ICE.

0:20:07 Lydia: Let anti -fascist lie has become the organizing rallying cry used by domestic terrorists to wage a violent assault against democratic institutions constitutional rights and fundamental american liberties common threads animating this violent conduct include and

0:20:25 Thomas: Wait, I agree with that. This anti -fascist lie. Hold on. Which side is this? All

0:20:29 Matt: Yeah, right. Domestic terrorists are taking advantage of the anti - fascist lie.

0:20:31 Thomas: How are we using an anti -fascist lie to wage violent assault against democratic institutions? Constitutional rights? How are we doing? This is that they that's you. You do that.

0:20:41 Lydia: That that's the actual administration uh common threads Fred's animating this violent conduct include anti -Americanism, anti -capitalism, and anti -Christianity, support for the overthrow of the United States government, extremism on migration, race, and gender, and hostility towards those who hold traditional American views on family, religion, and morality.

0:20:43 Matt: That's how it works. Just take that in, that sentence right there, anti -Americanism, anti capitalism, anti Christianity, that could could be interpreted as pretty much all the things that we believe in and support. I certainly am.

0:21:11 Thomas: I mean, I'm I am all those things to some degree, everybody. And it's my goddamn right as an American to be those things.

0:21:14 Matt: I mean, if you have a good understanding of it, that's right. I don't actually support the violent overthrow of the United States government. That's the only one on here that I think that you can't actually pin on me, but yeah, not yet. But I do have what's considered to be extreme views on migration in that I do actually recognize that it is a social construct and gender in that I recognize that there are more than two of them and that it does not necessarily what you're born with.

0:21:22 Thomas: Not yet. Yeah. There's at least three. It's my favorite quote of all time. God. And they said he was too old to be president. He's rattling off fucking hits like that. I miss it.

0:21:48 Matt: And hostility towards those who hold traditional American views on family, religion, and morality. As Vanessa pointed out, it's like 70 % of America that supports same -sex marriage. I mean, that's right.

0:21:58 Lydia: Yeah. You know, this is it's it's so interesting seeing this here. And then recently on Where There's Woke, we covered the Turning Point USA event at Auburn University right after they fired someone who was just a landscape supervisor, you know, and is exercising his First Amendment on Facebook. And it's this same kind of rhetoric. Right. And so you have like an Eric Trump and Laura Trump were part of that particular event. And it's just all coalescing around the same things from the bottom to the top across the country.

0:22:29 Matt: That's right, and it really is. It's very intentional and it is doing everything they can to recast their opponents and people who are very concerned about the fact that These are clearly at least neo -fascist, if not actual fascist. The fact that young Republicans are celebrating Hitler and that Hitler jokes are just fine now, you know, noticing this stuff makes you a terrorist.

0:22:47 Thomas: They're just 35 -year -old kids,

0:22:49 Matt: That's right. Young Republicans, the youngest.

0:22:50 Thomas: Man. They're children. They're still learning in their mid -30s.

0:22:56 Matt: Yeah. So this is scary because this is turning the might of national security and the FBI on those of us who, I don't know, post on social media about how we don't like what's going on in this country right now, not calling for violent revolution, just talking about it. That is enough to get you in this. So this is concerning.

0:23:14 Lydia: Not even like I mean, you can just say like like identifying as an atheist could technically be enough if they want to go after you, they can go after you because now that they've linked that, you know, atheism is anti -Christian potentially.

0:23:19 Matt: Anti -Christian. Yeah?

0:23:28 Lydia: And then now they've linked it to uh theoretically all this other stuff that they've decided is domestic terrorism

0:23:34 Thomas: I wish I knew how into this the rank and file are. You know, like I know we've lost a lot of people. People. We lost a lot of good people out of DOJ and FBI, all these places. And this is a joke. This is obviously a joke and you have to be part of the propaganda effort and the movement, the fascist movement to want to even take anything like this seriously. And I know they do. They all play dumb. They all pretend they all, you know, they all just, they enjoy it. They enjoy lying and just say, yeah, it's a terrorist. I don't, I don'T think any of them believe it. I, I mean, maybe, maybe a little bit, maybe they kind of convince themselves, but what I want to know is when this comes to like rubber meets the road kind of thing and it's you know some fbi agent is like all right go round up the the nothing and you know like or the or the everything I guess in some ways yeah I mean how much do they I mean that's got to be pretty insulting to anyone who does real work you know for the fbi because we we do need the fba for some things there's been those big gambling uh operation you know kind of things and sports betting things that they've taken down um there's there's all kinds of real reasons you know sex trafficking whatever might be

0:24:23 Lydia: Or the everything yeah yeah yeah

0:24:43 Thomas: That we need some amount of law enforcement and I'm sure that some number of those people are good people trying to do good work um all in all I'm pretty anti -police in general but I know there you need it for some things and there are good People what do those people think like I'm not doing this what is this this is nothing this is fucking nothing you know I don't know I I just hope that there's resistance on that level, uh, resistance in the form of, oh yeah, I'm going to file this in the rectangle, whatever that stupid word phrase is, you know? Uh, I don't know.

0:25:00 Matt: This is criminalizing opposition, is what it is.

0:25:11 Matt: Yeah circular, yeah. Well, I hope. I do think, I've been looking at, I follow the far right online as much as I can, and I see a lot of people still talking about Antifa funding networks. They throw Antifa around for pretty much anybody like us who's just progressive or opposes the stuff they're doing. It is very concerning. I'm willing to believe that some of these people in higher levels do think that there's some kind of funding network they could find if they kept looking. But using the JTTF, the Joint Terrorism Task Force, which is the next part of this here, is very concerning to take on political

0:25:42 Thomas: Do I want to go back to, they

0:25:43 Matt: Opponents. Yeah, it's fine. We can keep moving. But I just wanted to set all this up so you can see why it is so important that we talk about this Antifa Roundtable, which is of course a group of idiots sitting around wasting their time on it yeah

0:25:52 Thomas: Make great pizza though. The Antifa round table pizza is my favorite pizza. So good. Is that a California thing or is that a national brand? I forget.

0:26:01 Matt: I never tried it I'll take yeah it sounds pretty tasty

0:26:02 Thomas: That's good. Round table's good and

0:26:03 Lydia: And they said we weren't organized please these.

0:26:06 Thomas: The antifa they use you know bits of the victims you know the two in the pizza that's why the hit list is there and it's tasty it's better than you think

0:26:10 Lydia: Gross. Oh, but

0:26:13 Matt: Sprinkled with extra ice officers yeah all right well we should get on to the main event here uh

0:26:20 Lydia: I think we should take a break first before we jump into that.

0:26:20 Thomas: You're right main

0:26:21 Matt: Let's do that that's right it's

0:26:23 Thomas: Event oh man we're way behind the schedule that's okay um we've got to thank our amazing patrons and this is the second third of them thank you to mark schultz uh oh wait I I keep going in the wrong order oh well How about let's go this way, because we can build up to the top patron. A negative phenomenon. Oh, wow. Amy, must I jujitsu my ma? Holy crap. These are getting better and better. Is ChatGPT helping you all with this?

0:26:38 Lydia: There you go.

0:26:49 Thomas: That's too good.

0:26:48 Lydia: I know you have to tell us if you if they if it is so maybe

0:26:51 Thomas: Amy, most I juujitsu. Who would have thought you could use jujutsu in a palindrome? I never would have though.

0:26:56 Lydia: They were inspired from.

0:26:58 Thomas: That's incredible. That's true.

0:26:59 Lydia: God awful movies.

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0:26:55 Matt: Pretty good

0:27:00 Lydia: Bonus. Yeah.

0:27:03 Thomas: That's for their patrons only. God damn it but they should give it to everybody it was so fun yeah release this the us cut release the smith cut of the jujitsu best movie I've ever seen in my life it's so bad amy must I jujutsu my mom what a what a great that's a ah what a good palindrome you gotta fight for your right to ex parte jay sink council member elect vehicular man's laughter not to be be confused with new york penal code 125 .12 or whatever cavalry please replace this bubba joke with whatever scandal is current I like that even

0:27:06 Lydia: Release it. Release the jujitsu files. It's so bad. Yeah, oh yeah.

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0:27:52 Lydia: Classic.

0:28:12 Thomas: They're the best. All our children. We love them equally.

0:28:11 Lydia: No, they're all the best. Yes, they are all our favorites. It's

0:28:15 Thomas: They are. Well, we're going to take a quick break and we'll get to apparently our main story.

0:28:22 Matt: Right. The Antifa Roundtable, held at the White House with all of your favorite MAGA people. Just too many to name. All the stars are here. Of course, Pam Bondi and Kristi Noem and Donald Trump, but we're going to skip Kash Patel. We've heard enough from these people, but just to give you a quick preview of the intro, just because I had some intro clips lined up, but we just don't need this. We don't needs to watch more Trump. We have seen plenty of this man. In. But just so you know what you missed, they talk about how there are paid anarchist operations, including signs that are being made, that Biden was targeting Christians, which means, you know,

0:28:31 Lydia: Kash patel yeah that

0:28:51 Thomas: Starts with

0:28:51 Lydia: That's the proof

0:28:52 Thomas: The exterior this video you link me starts with an exterior of the white house a la snl you know like I can't it just looks like they're doing the exterior shot and then they're gonna go in and it's all they should do an antifa roundtable sketch because it and

0:29:02 Lydia: That's that's so

0:28:58 Matt: It's perfect. Oh, that would be so good with these people.

0:29:04 Lydia: Smart yeah yeah

0:29:05 Thomas: Then you could have all kinds of characters it's and it'S austin powers -esque you know know like just these villains like just talking making up shit about antifa get on it snl wait

0:29:10 Lydia: Man that's good that's cool good yeah

0:29:16 Matt: Yeah. So we found out that Biden is targeting Christians which means of course people who are targeting abortion clinics. Yeah. Biden was, we were going to complain about that.

0:29:20 Thomas: Biden is a was oh

0:29:22 Matt: Yeah, yeah. Very important because we're not doing that anymore. We're not targeting Christians and Catholics.

0:29:23 Thomas: Okay I'm gonna say like congrats man what anything he's doing any any amount of terrorism at 80 if you're a terrorist after 80 they should let you do it it's you know like I I to be able to maintain that level of activity you know yeah it's activity it's friendship it's it's connection you know terrorism is good for longevity yeah

0:29:38 Matt: It's true. It is good for your brain.

0:29:37 Lydia: Official position of the show. Matt, is that OK? That's true. Yeah, it's important to be passionate about something in old age. Yeah!

0:29:48 Thomas: Learn something new neuroplasticity

0:29:52 Matt: We learned that Antifa wants to kill people. Antifa has possibly killed maybe one person ever.

0:29:54 Thomas: They're so well funded and yet they can only kill one person they can only muster one confirmed kill yeah

0:30:02 Lydia: Well, it is because their sign budget is so astronomical. So they are well -funded, but it all goes to signs

0:30:07 Matt: The murder budget.

0:30:07 Thomas: It all goes and tents we know their tent budget their amazon tent budget you know they all have the same tent or sorry I keep saying they we we We all have the same tent, obviously. We're not going to pretend. We're part of it.

0:30:15 Lydia: We exactly right

0:30:19 Matt: We also learned, once again, that there's a thousand percent increase on ICE officers. Citation needed.

0:30:25 Thomas: Again, holy shit.

0:30:26 Matt: Yeah, they're really big on that one.

0:30:26 Thomas: We're up to like a 300 ,000 million trillion billion percent increase.

0:30:30 Matt: And I do want to point out the debate and switch there when Marsha Blankburn was switching over immediately from journalists to them.

0:30:37 Thomas: Wait, what? What do you mean? I missed that.

0:30:39 Matt: Oh, in that clip that we watched, she immediately started talking about ICE assaults when this was supposed to be a hit list on journalists, which of course it wasn't, as if that has anything to do with doxing ICE. So Antifa is apparently the same as ISIS, which has killed about 25 ,000 people and displaced 3 million.

0:30:57 Thomas: I feel like ISIS would also qualify as fascist, I would think.

0:31:00 Matt: They are. And in fact, Antifa tactics have been used to fight ISIS in Syria and other places. So yeah, you're right on. No, it's very true.

0:31:07 Thomas: They're partof the fa. They're firmly in the fa'. There's Antifa and then there's fa. And that's it that's a force that's a friendly ghost spooky ghost dichotomy right there we're on the Antifa part and lots of other things are fun like Isis and this administration yeah

0:31:11 Matt: Very much into the fun.

0:31:14 Lydia: Wow that's a fur

0:31:19 Matt: Well, so yes. But the whole point here, and this was all done by all these other fascist governments throughout history, the whole point is to get out ahead of it and call us the real fascists. We're the real threat. We are the the problem. That's the whole point of this panel. So no puppet. Let's start with Nick Sorter at 1930. We'll just watch a bit of him. He's a conservative media regular.

0:31:34 Thomas: Puppet all Okay.

0:31:43 Clip: Journalists and reporters. Do you want to start? Sure.

0:31:46 Thomas: That table's not round.

0:31:48 Clip: Go ahead. Absolutely.

0:31:48 Thomas: Fuck off.

0:31:48 Clip: Absolutely. President Trump, members of the cabinet, really appreciate you guys bringing this together. And the fact that we are here today and on such short notice shows how serious you guys are taking this issue of trans terrorists and the, frankly, the cities and police departments that are cooperating with Antifa, such as Portland.

0:31:49 Thomas: The lies never stop with this administration. Oh my god, that's Andy Ngo right there. So, I can't, I can't fucking do it. Trans terrorists? Oh yeah obviously

0:31:58 Lydia: It it is yeah

0:32:11 Clip: I mean, the Portland politicians are literally willing to sacrifice their own citizens just to appease these Antifa terrorists. It's sickening. I've seen it firsthand, obviously.

0:32:07 Lydia: Yeah

0:32:11 Matt: Cops love them. Literally sacrificing.

0:32:24 Clip: When I went to jail that night, never expected it to happen, I thought that they were maybe removing me from my own safety. It never crossed my mind that I was the one that was being arrested for a crime after I was just thrown into a hole. I heard from the Department of Homeland Security

0:32:24 Thomas: Come

0:32:29 Lydia: He was arrested Oh,

0:32:45 Thomas: To my head I never would have come up with what the rest of that was going to be I was thrown into a hole okay mr president I am here because I was throwing it sorry that just came out of nowhere that is I love that I I one of us doesn't see the stuff beforehand and it's me because that was that's a joy that is a joy you

0:33:02 Lydia: My God. Yeah.

0:33:09 Matt: You just made me enjoy that a lot more, actually.

0:33:11 Thomas: Are you are talking to the fucking president of the United States to tell him I was thrown into a hole.

0:33:18 Matt: Well -known Antifa tactic to round him up and throw him into a hole. So good.

0:33:26 Thomas: He's so serious. I never would have imagined. Usually you arrest a guy who threw someone into the hole or you arrest the hole. You don't arrest the guy that got thrown into the hole.

0:33:34 Lydia: Arrest the whole. Yeah? Yep. Yep.

0:33:39 Thomas: They hand me a ladder to climb out of the hole. Then I got thrown back in again. That was the ladder thrown on top of me.

0:33:45 Lydia: This time by the police.

0:33:46 Thomas: And then they had to get another ladder and a stick and try to lift me out of the hole. Oh,

0:33:53 Matt: We'll point out that his whole adventure did not end with a criminal charge. He was held on disorderly conduct, but okay,

0:33:57 Thomas: I won't need this. I'm sorry. I, we have so little joy in our lives in this day and age. I need to listen to that again.

0:34:01 Lydia: You need to see it again.

0:34:02 Clip: It's sickening.

0:34:03 Thomas: It's sickening.

0:34:03 Clip: I've seen it firsthand, obviously.

0:34:06 Thomas: Obviously you heard about the hole incident.

0:34:07 Clip: When I went to jail that night, never expected it to happen, I thought that they were maybe removing me for my own safety. It never crossed my mind that I was the one that was being arrested for a crime after I was just thrown into a hole. I heard from the Department of Homeland Security after

0:34:24 Matt: There it is. There it is, you're right.

0:34:26 Thomas: So good.

0:34:26 Matt: That is really good. That's a line for the ages after I was just throwing it all. The ultimate injustice.

0:34:27 Lydia: After I was thrown into a hole.

0:34:33 Thomas: Petitioning the president over your hole throwing in inning throwing throw.

0:34:37 Matt: We're starting off strong, guys. Great panel. Also, I love how he's like, yeah, it's really...

0:34:42 Thomas: Anyway, that's the end of the show. I'm done. That's all we needed.

0:34:46 Matt: I love that he's saying it goes to show how serious we are that we're here on short notice, as if these people would not show up for like a camera, like yeah, anywhere. Where.

0:34:53 Thomas: It goes to show how serious you are that you're napping through this not round table. It's fucking rectangular at best.

0:34:53 Lydia: With no notice.

0:35:00 Thomas: It's not round at all. There's no pizza. That would be funny if they're all having a little pizza party, too. We came here for the Antifa round table pizza party.

0:34:58 Matt: It's an open square.

0:35:04 Lydia: That would be adorable actually

0:35:08 Thomas: And they're each getting their little paper plates. So, anyway, about the hole. Hold on. Where was I? I saw you in the hole, there's no piece of it. There okay what's next oh we're just getting oh yes thank you that's that's what I wanted to hear

0:35:09 Lydia: The little soda like keep going yeah okay

0:35:20 Matt: Let's watch a bit more.

0:35:23 Clip: I had gotten out of jail and and one of your I won't say exactly who it was but somebody very close to Secretary Noem over here said that they were legitimately worried for my safety in the Portland jail but luckily the Portland Jail was I was the only one there essentially because they don't actually arrest people in Portland besides conservative journalists I guess so it look I'm glad that it was not a good night for me let's just say that it not fun sitting in that jail but I'm

0:35:42 Matt: Yeah, I'm sure. There was no one else in the Multnomah County Jail.

0:35:51 Thomas: We gotta throw this guy back in the hole so I'm gonna throw this guys ass in it he has the most you know there's punchable faces there's throat in the

0:36:02 Lydia: I I think one of the things that we missed though I'm I'm pretty sure this didn't happen here matt Matt, remind me if I'm wrong. He came with like the whole thing was like he was trying he was trying to save a flag from being burned. And he came here with the burnt flag and he pulled it out from underneath the table to like show Trump.

0:36:02 Matt: Whole worthy. Yes.

0:36:15 Thomas: Whole that's the funniest thing oh wow did they all get up and salute it please tell me they all got up and saluted it single tear george

0:36:29 Lydia: It's pretty ridiculous. And and Trump basically says like, oh, do you have do you? And he's like, I know exactly who did this, too. And Trump is like oh you know who exactly who like was burning that flag he's like yeah I know the name and he's like all right we'll connect you know connect with christy after this and uh you know we'll we'll take care of that I

0:36:40 Thomas: Soros yeah why would she be in charge of no

0:36:49 Lydia: I might be wrong maybe it was cash but it was one of them yeah

0:36:51 Thomas: I'm not doubting you I'm just saying this fucking and stupid fascism

0:36:53 Matt: Did sign that executive order on flag burning. He talks about it at the beginning about how we're going at DHS, but it's a threat to our national security that somebody's burning a flag somewhere yeah yeah yeah until

0:36:57 Thomas: But what is she I thought she's dhs or whatever department of flag burning oh oh okay didn't think about that the first amendment is a threat to homeland security I don't know are we still going with this with mr hull oh yeah thank you fellow

0:37:12 Matt: 23 yeah

0:37:15 Clip: Glad to see what has come of it and I've been able to talk to a bunch of FBI agents ATF agents DHS agents that I didn't even know existed until I went there and went to that ice

0:37:22 Thomas: Hull been

0:37:28 Lydia: He did it isn't it isn'T it a weird thing though for him to be saying like I didn't know that there there were staff in like these, like, no, he had like literally just saying, I didn't know agents existed at DHS, at the FBI, like that. Are you an idiot?

0:37:29 Thomas: Thrown in holes anonymous I I was there are dozens of us who have been thrown into holes okay sorry yeah I love how he called himself yes he called myself a conservative journalist I love that I didn't know there's any of this I don't even know where we are right now of

0:37:57 Clip: Facility and the morale is at an all -time high it is so exciting to see these guys know now that they have the backing of the the Secretary, the DOJ, as well as the President of the United States, and they are there to do their job. They are going to fulfill this mission and deport these violent criminals. I believe one of the ones that, I did a ride along with Secretary Noem yesterday, President Trump, and there was a pedophile that had come into the country five times over the past seven years, seven years. And apparently under the Biden regime, that was just allowed to happen, that was fine. No

0:38:04 Matt: That's not what reality says uh taking jobs

0:38:38 Clip: Problem it's concerning to me that you're seeing the Portland Police Department as well as the governor of Oregon and the mayor of course coming out and running defense for pedophiles that have entered the country illegally five times it's it's crazy I'm glad it's taking a front row seat in the media and you know they're being forced to talk about it in reality because you know we we're the ones that were on the ground we're We're the ones that are actually reporting what's going on, and much of the legacy media has been either ignoring it or covering for Antifa for years now. So thank you guys so much for taking this seriously, and President Trump, you mentioned that flag.

0:38:38 Matt: From american pedophiles

0:38:48 Thomas: Course let's

0:39:21 Lydia: Oh, here

0:39:22 Clip: So remember, you put out a truth right after I took this

0:39:22 Lydia: It is. Yeah, okay.

0:39:27 Thomas: Got a hole all over it looks

0:39:28 Clip: Flag from that man

0:39:29 Lydia: Like, he hadn't been there. He hadn't been there to bring that through security and stuff.

0:39:30 Clip: That was burning it in the street.

0:39:31 Lydia: Like I'm just thinking, there it

0:39:31 Matt: Very

0:39:31 Clip: Yeah, I saw it. Do you know who he is? Oh yeah, I know exactly who it is. So why don't you give it to Pam, give it to the Attorney General and let's start prosecutions.

0:39:33 Thomas: Like a hat up here okay that was him how

0:39:34 Lydia: Is yeah oh Pam there it is hmm

0:39:40 Clip: Yeah. I actually have a second flag that he tried to burn as well, so I have two of them from the same guy. Well, you also saw what happened when that flag started burning. Everyone went crazy. That's right. And that's when it started, when they started burning the flag. So thank you.

0:39:41 Thomas: Many fucking flags you got on you man that's right yeah that's wrong whoa

0:39:51 Clip: If you could give the information, it would be great.

0:39:52 Matt: New phenomenon the flight burning of the flag is

0:39:53 Lydia: Crazy

0:39:54 Clip: And at least that horrible night made you famous.

0:40:00 Lydia: Did it freeze weird

0:40:00 Matt: That 23 yeah youtube couldn't take it anymore along with the rest of us yeah you

0:40:07 Clip: Very

0:40:01 Thomas: It did freeze whoa that was weird the fakest fucking yeah this little fucking laugh of someone who should be thrown back into a hole All right, that was the best.

0:40:17 Matt: Know not a lot of

0:40:18 Thomas: We should

0:40:18 Matt: Information about antifa in that that's in that clip, really talking about the people that should be deported, which I guess also includes Antifa for his mind, and flag burning. So yeah, this is very much setting the theme, though, of people just sucking up as hard as possible. Just a whole lot of ass -kissing in this session. Did we get through to... That's probably enough out of him. This is somebody I just want to point out who claimed that Elizabeth Warren assaulted him. He tried very hard to say that Elizabeth Warren is into heavy, heavy kink. We learned that from, what's his name? Remember that?

0:40:44 Thomas: All be so lucky. It's that, it's that. Yeah. Remember

0:40:54 Matt: Who are those guys?

0:40:54 Thomas: That guy? How's he doing? Wool.

0:40:55 Matt: Man, oh man. Yeah, he should be. Jack Wally, whatever happened to you?

0:40:58 Lydia: What's he been doing Jake Jake Jake a bull yeah

0:40:59 Thomas: It'S not Jack. Yeah, Jacob Wool. Yeah that's it.

0:41:03 Matt: That's right. That is right, of course.

0:41:04 Thomas: Man, how's he doing? Somebody google that right now.

0:41:06 Matt: Well, it seems to be out of public quid, so that's good. All right.

0:41:08 Lydia: Sir oh

0:41:12 Thomas: I wish I could stop thinking about how funny that was. I'll try. I'm gonna do my best. My absolute best. Fucking clowns. All right.

0:41:20 Lydia: Well formerly formally sentenced on Monday day uh like

0:41:25 Matt: For one of the many frauds he's done.

0:41:25 Thomas: Just, just on Monday?

0:41:26 Lydia: I yeah well I just uh I just pulled up the news to see if he was in the news and yeah this this was posted yesterday um

0:41:33 Matt: How about it?

0:41:33 Thomas: You're talking about Jacob Wool? Man, is he going to get a pardon any fucking second now?

0:41:35 Lydia: Jacob wool and jack berkman uh probably um

0:41:35 Matt: Wow, timing. Oh yeah, because it was fraud, right? It was some kind of fraud and he was perpetrating.

0:41:42 Thomas: It was a lot of fraud.

0:41:44 Matt: Trump loves pardoning fraud.

0:41:44 Lydia: Well well it's state charges states vote voter intimidation law michigan

0:41:46 Thomas: Thank God. What state, though? Thank God, if it was Texas or Florida, he would be out tomorrow, yesterday.

0:41:49 Lydia: Yeah yeah

0:41:53 Matt: I think he put out some fake voter info or something. Thing. He's done so many frauds.

0:41:56 Thomas: It was a fake. Yes, yeah. There was that. There's a lot. He did a fake like voter hotline or robocalls.

0:42:00 Lydia: This was for the these were for the robocalls yeah

0:42:03 Thomas: They were like, oh, I'm not going to vote. Yeah, man, good stuff.

0:42:03 Matt: That's right, that's right. Yeah, yeah. Professional liar, Jacob Wall.

0:42:06 Lydia: I mean it's just probation it sounds like but whatever

0:42:08 Thomas: So, I mean, there's pluses and minuses. He came up with the Elizabeth Warren thing. That's in the plus column. Everything else in the minus column.

0:42:13 Matt: That was funny. Yeah. So yeah, a quick... That's probably more than enough of Sorter. But yeah, I love the idea that he was the only person in the Multnomah County Jail on a Saturday night. That is incredible in Portland. Let's skip ahead to...

0:42:28 Thomas: Portland PD is so famously left. You know, they're just lefties. They've literally been caught coordinating with Nazis because they are the Nazis.

0:42:31 Matt: Kind and And discerning.

0:42:36 Lydia: Yeah the proud boy rallies yeah yeah

0:42:39 Thomas: It's unbelievable. I think, you know, it'd be funny.

0:42:40 Matt: Well, let's move on to, oh yeah,

0:42:42 Thomas: It would be hilarious is if they had this round table. Also, someone from Portland PD was there being like part of the Nazi fascist round table you know like they pretty much yeah it's like that's that crowd it's the same people anyway sorry matt what did you

0:42:50 Lydia: He's like I agree yeah yeah

0:42:57 Matt: No, no worries. We're moving on to Emmy adjacent, Brandi Kruse at 2324. Yeah, she claims to be an Emmy award winner, but it was her team. She did not win an Emmy, but she likes saying she was.

0:43:02 Thomas: Emmy adjacent what what did she just say oh okay okay all

0:43:09 Matt: She was sort of a journalist in a way, but now she's not. Now she is this.

0:43:08 Lydia: She always has really great blowouts like hair you know her hair always looks really really good on camera. So that's Emmy worthy.

0:43:18 Thomas: Someone throw her into a hole what uh sorry what time stamp was it oh man there's no way we're gonna well that's where we are already that just goes right into that okay let's uh let me make sure I'm on this the right thing

0:43:21 Lydia: 23, 24. Get a little bit

0:43:22 Matt: 2324, I'm going to keep it quick. All right, let'S get a taste. We'll taste a Brandi.

0:43:33 Thomas: Here it's just you can't compete I I feel like she's gonna be like wow hate to go after that I have

0:43:41 Clip: Publicly as to how they let this happen thank

0:43:42 Lydia: Of her. Man.

0:43:43 Thomas: To follow whole guy all right yeah

0:43:45 Clip: You sir mr president you're gonna brandy cruz you're going to hear us be very fired up today and you can tell and it's because some of us have been covering antifa for 15 years and have never had anyone in a position of authority even acknowledge their existence and I'll also tell you that I think that had you not done the single most powerful thing you've done to deal with this scourge has been acknowledging that that Antifa is a real thing. I genuinely believe there would be people at these tables who would be dead today and would have been killed in Portland had you not called them a terror organization and said, we're going to bring the full weight of the federal government to bear. I talked to Katie Davis Court in Portland the other day.

0:44:03 Lydia: Look at the hair. Oh. And this other hair coming.

0:44:05 Thomas: It's getting in the screen wow oh yeah same

0:44:21 Lydia: I want to know what's going through Andy Ngo's head

0:44:23 Clip: She'd been assaulted all summer, and she said the same thing.

0:44:24 Matt: Weird, nothing.

0:44:26 Clip: They didn't seem quick to violence

0:44:25 Thomas: Fucking lying it's gone on the whole time

0:44:28 Clip: As soon as you made that designation. So they're thinking in their heads. They're worried.

0:44:30 Thomas: This this this person's gunning for

0:44:32 Clip: There's been two dozen or

0:44:32 Thomas: A fucking position within the administration she's

0:44:34 Matt: It gets worse. It gets worse

0:44:35 Thomas: Like full business lady lady. Like I could be in the white house and it's, it's savvy. She knows exactly what she's doing here.

0:44:38 Lydia: Right now. With her pen in hand. Like, yeah. She's been studying episodes of The Apprentice.

0:44:45 Matt: These are all job interviews

0:44:46 Thomas: Oh yeah. This is, this is wow.

0:44:49 Clip: So arrested in Portland. And they don't want to go to federal prison. There's this video of them, one of them who was in the face of an ICE agent and then he's in custody shaking. Once you take the mask off, they're nothing. And I was told by probably a dozen people not to tell you this, I'm going to tell it to you anyway because it's relevant to what we're talking about. I'm living proof that you can recover from TDS. I had strong Trump derangement syndrome for probably eight years it's

0:45:03 Matt: The mask, huh? Back

0:45:15 Lydia: Trump derangement syndrome.

0:45:20 Thomas: That's a lot. That'S like most of the years.

0:45:21 Matt: When I was a journalist

0:45:22 Clip: The one this is one of the reasons I recovered from it and by the way it's much better to not have TDS I'm happier I'm healthier more successful I even think I got a little more attractive yes you know I watched I'm a reporter in Seattle and frankly I could not care any less what any of you have to say about this meeting could not carry less we're not here for you I'm not here to convince any of you that antifa is a real thing because if you have not come to that conclusion by now you are never going to come to the conclusion because you don't want to see it and you're going to go and you are going to say it's a bunch of right wing conservative influencers who are here spinning a tale I was one of you I was a mainstream reporter in seattle for 10 years I was tv reporter on the streets doing my job and I was still assaulted by Antifa so it's not about being conservative it's about people who go there and show what they're doing and when I saw after all those years that the media wouldn't be honest about what was happening that Democratic politicians wouldn't honest about was happening I thought well gosh if they're not being honest about that maybe they're not being about President Trump either and it opened my mind to just looking at things for what they were and now I find you quite funny actually no I think I said I'm much happier about it but you know for For me, again, I could

0:45:37 Thomas: She is pushing all the buttons. She KNOWS exactly what SHE'S doing.

0:45:44 Matt: Great Are you going to talk about Antifa? Yep

0:46:40 Thomas: Long

0:46:40 Clip: Not care any less the stories that they go to print. This is what I care about. We have three and a half years.

0:46:40 Thomas: Are we doing this tell me when to stop okay

0:46:44 Matt: 2647 was what I had But this is just

0:46:46 Thomas: Still

0:46:46 Clip: Nothing is guaranteed, although I think if Democrats keep it up, we'll probably have Republican presidents for the next three decades. But nothing is guaranteed and so what I want to see over the next 3 1⁄2 years is a full court press to dismantle Antifa once and for all in a meaningful way. I know, Andy, we talked before this about some ideas. That's really what we want to ... I don't care what the media says. I don' care what Democrats say. Say, they will never wake up to this fact. So we want the federal government to take as many of these cases as possible. Look at the interstate travel between Portland and Seattle when it comes to these people who are committing violent acts. And

0:46:47 Thomas: More god what a fucking ghoul

0:47:20 Lydia: Couple

0:47:20 Clip: Hopefully in three and a half years, they'll be a shell of their former selves.

0:47:21 Lydia: Hour drive. Interstate travel.

0:47:24 Thomas: That's that's pretty long guy but

0:47:25 Clip: We'll have it very close to them. And it's Antifa and many others, unfortunately. Yes. There are many others. Thank

0:47:31 Thomas: Man boy that that I so in a weird way that wasn't as good as whole guy but that was an incredible sales job that is somebody who really thought of every single way to appeal to this fucking douchebag this orange goddamn stain and she nailed it like honestly I couldn't think of a better way to do that like

0:47:32 Lydia: Crazy.

0:47:55 Matt: She practiced that for quite a while. Yeah, something.

0:47:57 Thomas: She tried to tried to like get him to like think about her physical attraction tried to get like all this very calculated stuff and and I man I wonder if it's gonna work I don't know if I don't know what he could hire her to and what she's gunning for but man

0:47:59 Lydia: Yeah, it's her. Yeah first job interview. Yep. They'll create something. Yeah

0:48:13 Matt: She's getting something. Uh, she's certainly going to get a press pass. She, she hosts a podcast called, uh, Undivided. So of course it's nonpartisan, rejects fringe ideology, speaks truth to power, all that stuff. So here we are, uh, being nonpartison.

0:48:16 Thomas: Undivided here I am saying I don'T GIVE A SHIT WHAT THE ADEMIA SAYS AND I'M NOT HERE TO CONVINCE ANYBODY BUT UNDIVIDED I'M NON -PARTISAN ALL

0:48:31 Matt: Well, I mean, she didn't, so good work. Um, I'm glad she wasn't trying to convince me because she didn'T say anything about antifa uh yeah so um that's that's brandy cruz for you um yeah so let's take a look of course at all -star yes the man himself andy no 27 14 needs

0:48:45 Lydia: One of your favorite.

0:48:51 Thomas: THE WICKEDLY TALENTED OH MAN OKAY WELL WE'RE GOING RIGHT THIS IS JUST IT WE'RE JUST GOING IN ORDER THIS GUY WHAT A WHAT A THING IS

0:48:54 Lydia: Andy, no.

0:48:58 Matt: Introduction yep still

0:49:03 Clip: You. Thank you, Mr. President and members of the cabinet. I have a lot of gratitude and a little bit about my background. I'm born in Portland, Oregon, from there, and growing up, it's always been left -wing, very progressive, and I liked it.

0:49:11 Thomas: THIS LIKE FAKE ACCENT THING Oh no, he's lost it a little bit.

0:49:19 Clip: It had cafes and artists and those who lived a bohemian lifestyle, and in 2016, I was a graduate student at Portland State studying political science. I was an editor at the student paper there, a very progressive paper, and I was assigned to cover the election night demonstrations. Well, the elections night protests turned to riots, three days of violent rioting in Portland. And it was the first time that I saw groups dressed in black with their faces covered. This was four years before COVID. Some of them were waving the black flag of anarchism, some the red flag of Marxism. And within seconds, they would ravage one street to another, to another to another. And the next day I would read

0:49:22 Matt: Very affected

0:50:05 Thomas: What

0:50:05 Clip: The legacy media which I still read at that time and looked forward to, and I looked up to those journalists and I was really shocked to see that the narrative was that these, in my view, anti -democratic political violence was legitimate acts of protests because people were they were concerned about racism or all these other lies and so for the next four years I just continued going out with my video camera I thought look people can ignore what I write because it's been but videos can quite speak for themselves and

0:50:06 Thomas: Does it mean to ravage a street? I'm a crotter.

0:50:44 Lydia: We pause for a second?

0:50:45 Clip: In 2019

0:50:45 Matt: Please please

0:50:46 Thomas: Can I never hear this again?

0:50:46 Lydia: Just I need to I just need to like, offer some context here. He's, he said he wrote for the student paper, right while he was at Portland State. And then he was like, really surprised by the way that the journalists at this progressive paper were covering this thing that he saw with with his own eyes. And so he went out on his own and started capturing things himself. He was fired, actually.

0:51:07 Lydia: Yeah, he was covering from a student newspaper.

0:51:09 Thomas: He was fired from a student newspaper? That's

0:51:11 Lydia: Yeah. So he was covering an interfaith panel at campus, and his coverage of the Muslim students' remarks in that were, he ended up being dismissed over that because of the way that he characterized it. The editor said that the summary of the Muslim students' remarks reflected a reckless oversimplification and violation of journalistic ethics and was meant to incite a reaction, that he was manipulating

0:51:08 Matt: Of course and

0:51:12 Thomas: Hard to do. Mm -hmm. That's his

0:51:40 Lydia: These situations.

0:51:40 Thomas: Whole deal. Yeah.

0:51:41 Lydia: Right. And so he continues to do that. So I just want to be clear that that's why he had to go out with his camera and do things on his own is because because he got fired from the student newspaper. So there you go.

0:51:51 Matt: That's who he's been ever since that exact thing that's what he does and a

0:51:55 Lydia: And immediately,

0:51:55 Thomas: I didn't want to work there. For me, I wanted to go by myself.

0:51:59 Lydia: Immediately after that, he wrote a piece with the National Review right after getting fired, and it was titled Fired for Reporting the Truth. So yep, yep, there you Go.

0:52:08 Thomas: They tend to do that. They hate the truth, those student newspapers. Papers are we doing more of this fucking shit god I can't listen to this guy he's the worst yeah

0:52:14 Matt: Little more I know

0:52:18 Clip: It led to me nearly losing my life. I was covering another Antifa protest and riot at that point had been routine in Portland

0:52:26 Lydia: It was a Proud Boys rally and a counter protest.

0:52:28 Thomas: This guy over here uh did they get you in the hole as well yeah almost

0:52:29 Lydia: There's that little context again. You got in that hole too yeah it was a proud boys rally not an antifa riot and then there was a counter -protest because of the proud boys this

0:52:42 Thomas: Was this the milk incident

0:52:43 Lydia: Is the milkshake one yeah yeah

0:52:44 Matt: The milkshake

0:52:44 Thomas: He almost died of milkshake I remember wasn't he like there could have been dry what oh yeah there's a whole thing where it's like there

0:52:50 Lydia: He tried to say it was like concrete

0:52:52 Thomas: Might have been dry yeah yeah Yeah, powder that would make... So fucking stupid.

0:52:55 Clip: And then I was ambushed in a mob beating and I had never been in a fight. I didn't even realize that I was being assaulted until seconds in and the punches came from everywhere on my head and my face and I was bleeding out of my eyes and ears and then they threw all the drinks in my eyes to humiliate me further and to laugh at me and I was rushed to the hospital in a ambulance and CT scan and I had subarachnoid hemorrhage which is bleeding in the brain and nearly died and after surviving that the reporting that I saw in liberal media was it seemed to suggest that I had deserved it because they branded me far -right and some even went so far as to suggest that I maybe faked my injuries. A BuzzFeed reporter asked for my medical records, which I did provide, but this felt so, it's like because I didn't die in that attack, there was another round of people who wanted to finish me off. But

0:53:28 Thomas: Had milkshake brain. Doctors said they'd never seen anything like it. Douchebag gets milkshaked. Yeah.

0:54:01 Clip: I continued, and then 2020, Portland was really the epicenter of the longest political violence. Those months of riots, I was on the ground, under cover, and there was an assassination there.

0:54:03 Thomas: So brave. Trump is so bored. He's looking into outer

0:54:10 Lydia: Is he sleeping right now

0:54:13 Clip: There was a supporter of Donald Trump named Aaron Danielson who was shot dead by a self -described Antifa member who then fled out of state and died in a shootout.

0:54:13 Thomas: Space. Yeah, he's... Oh, he is focusing. This girl

0:54:16 Matt: He said trump he said trump wake up you

0:54:22 Clip: Please

0:54:22 Thomas: On his left is just like, you fucking amateur. You don't know how to... You're good at the fascism news, but you don't have an appeal to this guy.

0:54:25 Matt: Haven't mentioned trump yep

0:54:29 Lydia: Yeah um harmeet dylan was also andy no's lawyer by the way when he was looking into pursuing a lawsuit against like the portland police and stuff Harmeet Dhillon who now heads the civil rights division for the doj under the trump administration so yeah

0:54:40 Matt: Small

0:54:42 Thomas: Cool. Cool. Are we done with this guy?

0:54:43 Matt: World yep I I think that's probably enough andy no I mean any andy and I was enough yeah no um we can skip to uh another all -star Jack Posobiec at 35.

0:54:47 Thomas: So dramatic.

0:54:55 Matt: Love us some Jack Posobic.

0:54:55 Thomas: Man, I haven't seen this guy in a minute.

0:54:57 Matt: Yeah, it's been a good minute.

0:54:58 Lydia: Well yeah I mean he's a quick quick thing before before we before we get into that but just the again everybody is related right? So Jack is the, oh gosh, the senior editor at Human Events where Will Chamberlain is editor in chief. Will Chamberlain, senior counsel for Mike Davis's Article 3 project. So we're talking alt -right, alt - right, right? And then Human Events, their parent organization bought the the post -millennial where Andy Ngo is editor at large. Yeah. Human Events is actually what Ronald Reagan credited. It's a magazine. And he credited the magazine with turning him from being a liberal Democrat into a conservative and said that it was must -reading for conservatives who want to know what is really going on in Washington,

0:55:16 Thomas: Wilt Chamberlain, holy shit. Human events.

0:55:49 Lydia: D .C.

0:55:50 Thomas: I'm choking up. This is very... She's a big Reagan fan. It's any time she starts waxing poetic about Ronald Reagan. She's like, and he said the best thing for the inside of a man is the outside of a horse.

0:55:50 Lydia: I know. It is very emotional. Yeah. So yeah, it's just everything is connected, right? So I just wanted to set that stage there.

0:56:06 Thomas: And she was the throat goat. What a power couple general

0:56:10 Matt: Can't let that go unmentioned. And I will point out the Southern Poverty Law Center, I'm going to have to link to his profile on the SPLC because it's quite a profile. It just has him filed under general hate. That is the category they have him under. He has so many general hate ties to white nationalists, neo -Nazis, just general

0:56:25 Thomas: Hate that should be one of the characters at the antifa roundtable just like general hate like gn dot hate

0:56:30 Matt: Reporting.

0:56:30 Lydia: General hate. I just said, yeah, how I met your mother thing. Anyone Anyone who's watching.

0:56:34 Matt: Well, let's watch a bit of Jack at 35. I think most of our viewers are probably familiar with Jack Posobiec, but yeah, probably the worst person. That's really saying something, the worst person here.

0:56:39 Thomas: Wait

0:56:43 Clip: Say a few words. Mr. President, thank you so much for having us here today and

0:56:49 Lydia: Whole guy had to turn

0:56:51 Thomas: That's what he looks like now whoa I guess he was so young when we first what

0:56:51 Lydia: On his mic for him. Yeah.

0:56:51 Clip: Holding this round table. Antifa is real. Antifa has been around in various iterations for almost a hundred years in some some instances, going back to the Weimar Republic in Germany, and it's

0:57:03 Matt: That is true. And

0:57:05 Thomas: Side of that were they on far

0:57:05 Matt: Why were they in the Weimar Republic? Yeah,

0:57:06 Clip: Now been just under one month since we saw a far leftist murder Charlie Kirk, and we saw thousands upon thousands of people, other far leftists and people in positions of authority, people like nurses and pilots and doctors and HR departments, celebrating the death and the murder of Charlie Kirk.

0:57:16 Thomas: Leftist I wouldn't have been able to pick him

0:57:29 Clip: This sickness that's out there is absolutely real and Mr.

0:57:29 Thomas: Out of a lineup now he looks that's not what I thought he looked like does

0:57:32 Clip: President thank you for mentioning the fact that one of the bullet casings read hey fascist catch on it. One of the other bullet casers right next to that had Bella Chow written on it now Bella Ciao is a song that is known in Antifa circles as the international anthem of Antifa and all of us around the world around this room that have studied Antifa were very familiar with these symbols and Mr. President I think the situation is getting worse when you look at people like Luigi Mangione in his 20s Thomas Matthew Crooks of course who took a shot at you sir the ice shooter in Dallas and now this Tyler Robinson we're starting to see a pattern of more and more murderous violence and this same violence is not just random it is targeted assassinations which are getting worse and every single one of us in

0:57:43 Thomas: That late that girl was a black eye was she attacked by magione

0:57:45 Matt: Bad Megan. He's taking the bullets very seriously.

0:57:45 Lydia: She does.

0:58:06 Thomas: I want to look at him damn yeah

0:58:29 Clip: This room that goes out there and obviously you as well sir and all the staff we are now under that threat every single day and working there at Turning Point USA and I've spent just about the last month out there in Phoenix with with Erica with the family with the team and I will tell you this Mr. President even though going through something like that which is an absolute nightmare and people say what was it like to speak in front of all those people was horrible every second of it was horrible but we're not going to quit and Turning Point USA is continuing the tour that Charlie was on we had 6 ,000 people when we went back to Utah we had 5 ,000 people last night in Montana if you can believe that we are continuing to to organize on campus. We are getting more and more people coming out in the face of this threat, knowing what happened to Charlie. But, Mr. President, we need to do something about this because I fear that the next one who could be killed could be sitting at this table right now. And we're not going

0:59:29 Thomas: You're all saying this what could be

0:59:34 Clip: To stop, but they need to stop and they will not stop until they are stopped. Thank you. Thank you, Jack.

0:59:34 Lydia: Everyone's saying the same thing.

0:59:35 Thomas: This girl the black eye until every last one of

0:59:41 Clip: I appreciate it very much.

0:59:41 Thomas: Us is thrown in a hole

0:59:42 Clip: One thing I have to say is that Washington, Washington, D .C. was almost as bad. I don't know what could be worse than Portland. You don't even have stores anymore. They don't even put glass up. They put plywood on their windows. But most of the retailers have left. But Washington, DC was so bad. And Pam, I'd say it took 12 days to really make it pretty good and a month to make it great. And now people are going out to dinner. The restaurants are booming. They don't have enough seats.

0:59:52 Matt: Stories. I don't need to hear enough

1:00:09 Clip: They're open.

1:00:09 Matt: Of this guy. Can skip Julio Rosas. He's just another TPUSA guy just piling on the stories. He's claiming that there was a cartel at one of the protests. Of course, that didn't happen.

1:00:19 Thomas: An Antifa cartel?

1:00:21 Matt: Yeah, the Cartel Jalisco Nueva Generacion, that they're just drug dealing cartels. Love Antifa. And that has nothing to do with any of this. Then we have, he also claimed that protesters were chanting, shoot ICE in Chicago. There was one incident of maybe somebody saying that in one protest in Chicago, and people were immediately contradicting that. And yeah, so we can, yeah.

1:00:42 Lydia: I'm pretty sure, I'm pretty sure like just from looking at the LA Times coverage and like NPR's coverage about the assaults on ICE, I think there's been like, you know, besides like the Texas situation, which also no one, no ICE person actually got shot there right it was uh the the texas facility the ice facility where um there are a bunch of people indicted that were the antifa cell out of texans um but I think there is like one um ice officer that's been shot and it was because a bullet ricocheted off of something else from like the local police and ended up hitting the ice officer in the leg so

1:00:54 Thomas: What Texas situation? What Texas situa - I don't remember. Oh,

1:01:17 Matt: Not by a protester, not by anybody, not a civilian. And of course, we've seen again and again, ICE is doing all the shooting at these protests. I mean, I mean, you've seen these pastors and protesters and people in frog suits getting shot and maced up and down. But yeah, so let's go on to Katie Davis Court, 4516, just moving along here.

1:01:39 Thomas: Katie Davis Court. Okay.

1:01:41 Matt: She'll tell us about her black eye.

1:01:35 Lydia: Davis court yeah yep yep infiltrating

1:01:44 Thomas: We're going to get an answer to that.

1:01:45 Matt: Andy Ngo is the editor -in -chief of this publication.

1:01:46 Clip: Hi, Mr. President. It is an honor being being here today and I first wanted to start by thanking you guys for designating Antifa a terrorist group is exactly what this group is it's a long time coming I'm an investigative journalist from Seattle I work for the Post Millennial alongside and you know and Jack Posobiec I have been infiltrating Antifa cells in Seattle and Portland for the past decade I know their inner workings and Antifa uses extreme political violence to crush the civil rights of their political enemies and believes that violence is justified by any means necessary but today I want to focus on what is happening in portland at the ice facility I've been covering this for the past four months and this is a call out to corporate media who has completely ignored this story or has falsely reported on it. This is nothing short of a sustained attack on the united states which is being supported by democratic elected officials the Portland Police Bureau has completely abandoned several blocks outside

1:02:18 Thomas: Todd Blanche. Short other than. She looks like Gollum. Does

1:02:50 Clip: The ice facility giving away their jurisdiction to a terrorist group who has spent the past four months harassing assaulting and intimidating anyone they perceive to be against their cause not only have federal agents been agents been relentlessly assaulted for more than 100 consecutive days black clad anarchist militants concealing their identities behind black facial coverings have been assaulting reporters just

1:02:50 Thomas: She have that Gollam filter on? Right here. You don't have to, you have to yell. Yeah.

1:03:15 Matt: Masks. What kinds

1:03:16 Lydia: That's ice so yeah open

1:03:17 Matt: Of cowards would wear masks in public? Look.

1:03:18 Clip: For trying to cover their crimes today I am sitting here with a black eye and a concussion after being violently hit in the face with a metal pole while reporting outside the ice facility just this past week after the attack I immediately went to a Portland three Portland police officers who refused to detain the suspect I took the time to who chased down the suspect in the

1:03:23 Thomas: I can't control the volume of my voice.

1:03:39 Thomas: In fairness, police officers think this is how women look all the time.

1:03:43 Clip: Streets had her held for 35 minutes. I was waiting for Portland police to come and they never came. Then that's what opened my eyes to what this group is actually doing. I watched 20 Antifa militants help my assault suspect escape into an Antifa safe house that is one block away from the ICE facility. And this safe house is where Antifa affiliated protesters are conducting paramilitary operations it's where they are resting they're

1:03:54 Lydia: To my eyes they

1:03:59 Thomas: 20 Antifa.

1:04:05 Matt: Was at TGI Fridays, but you know.

1:04:07 Lydia: Have like house money dang parliamentary

1:04:09 Thomas: Yeah. Paralimentarily.

1:04:15 Matt: What?

1:04:15 Clip: Showering they're eating to continue

1:04:16 Thomas: She's trying to say paramilitary, but she combined it with parliamentary. It's parliamentary paramilinary.

1:04:21 Matt: Same thing. I'll say, now they're showering.

1:04:21 Clip: This occupation I have staked out this safe

1:04:24 Thomas: Paralomantularity.

1:04:25 Matt: I thought they didn't shower.

1:04:25 Clip: House and have observed shift changes this group is highly organized it is being funded through mutual aid groups and they have no plans of stopping residents living across the ice facility have been held hostage by by Antifa, they're begging for federal intervention, the city refuses to help, and they want you, President Trump, to come in and restore law and order. I want to stress the importance of taking this situation seriously, because when I first started reporting on this occupation, I went undercover in Black Block, I talked to these Antifa militants, I lasted for about a month,

1:04:30 Thomas: Shift changes. Those are illegal. Wow. Oh,

1:05:01 Clip: They believe that ICE agents are the Nazi Gestapo who need to be killed.

1:05:01 Thomas: Man. I want to go consume that.

1:05:05 Clip: They told me that directly, And I think that if this situation is not taken as seriously out as is it's just a matter of time before someone gets killed and Thank you for having me Thank you, Katie. That's a pretty incredible. The only question nobody can answer is why why are they doing this? They're like Insurrectionists they're terrible people people,

1:05:22 Matt: Yeah, why?

1:05:24 Thomas: They're like insurrection. They are like the ones that we had on January 6th. Yeah, I thought he loved insurrectionists. You should pardon them.

1:05:28 Lydia: Pardoned yeah right

1:05:32 Matt: Not like this. So I will point out, yes, she did get hit in the eye with a flagpole, but she was in the middle of a fracas. You can watch the video. It's not worth watching now. So basically, there's Antifa people just walking down the street with their faces covered, like black bloc style, waving a flag. It's like a Palestinian flag, I think. And somebody grabs the flag away from them and this fight starts as will happen. She gets closer and she gets hit with a flagpole. So I can't really tell from the video if it's all that intentional. It doesn't seem like they're aiming for her face at all or that was what was happening. But yes, she did get a black eye while reporting from the front lines of Antifa. ICE has also allowed her to hang out on the roof and report from their building for her safety, I guess, and because she's an independent journalist unfettered by partisanship.

1:06:00 Lydia: Interesting

1:06:19 Matt: So yeah, we got Savannah Hernandez at 48, 47. Watch just a minute of her.

1:06:15 Lydia: Info

1:06:25 Thomas: That's right now. All right.

1:06:27 Matt: Yeah, former Infowars, current TPUSA.

1:06:29 Clip: But you really wonder why why they doing it? What are they what are they gaining other than they're obviously paid they're paid a lot of money. Go ahead, please Mr. President if I can answer that question the reason why they're doing it is because the same media that's sitting in this room with us has declared all of us at this table Nazis and fascists and they've been doing this for years this is why Antifa feels emboldened to attack us now almost every single person at this table has been threatened with a steel bat we've been assaulted we've been harassed we've threatened and that is in huge part due to the media so my message right now is for you guys because two

1:06:31 Lydia: Wars god does

1:06:49 Matt: No, that's just us.

1:06:57 Thomas: Steel bat.

1:06:58 Matt: The same bet.

1:07:05 Clip: Years ago in or back in 2020, by the way, I was censored for my reporting on Antifa here in Washington, D .C. You were talking about how safe it is now, Mr. President. It wasn't so safe back then. Back in 2020, I watched as a father was being mobbed and surrounded by Antifa members as his terrified crying children looked on and the police here did nothing. I watched a woman have her hair violently ripped out of her skull simply for waving an American flag on the streets of Washington, DC and by the way if

1:07:05 Lydia: She just mean a metal bat because they're like aluminum right yeah

1:07:07 Thomas: They don't make them out of steel that I know of. They'd be very heavy.

1:07:30 Thomas: She was hit with a pure adamantium bat. Then they moved

1:07:32 Lydia: Yeah

1:07:36 Clip: You guys try to go and find any of this footage you won't find any because Twitter deleted all of it because our president shared my reporting and they deleted my entire account immediately after so now if you want to know what happened in 2020 all you're gonna see is the media headlines that said it was fiery but mostly peaceful thanks for that one CNN the reality is that it was an extremely violent fantastic

1:07:36 Thomas: To lead bats. Oh, yes. Mm -hmm. Yeah.

1:07:55 Lydia: Tell us tell

1:07:56 Thomas: Okay, sure.

1:07:52 Matt: Hey, you guys want to know why she got her account deleted? Yeah. Posts such as, and I'm sorry, I'm just going to have to read it here, but PSA, there is currently a tranny stabber on the loose. Sorry for the hateful language. And it just goes on to talk about some really horrible anti -trans stuff. This was on X, by the way.

1:08:15 Matt: This is actually... So yeah, post Twitter. Yeah, I don't know for...

1:08:15 Lydia: Us wow wow

1:08:16 Thomas: After post... Really? I was just going to say she was ahead of her time. Like I was literally going to joke, oh, ahead of her time, but no, she was actually banned from nothing.

1:08:24 Matt: Well, they removed the post for that one. But previously on Twitter, she posted all kinds of hateful stuff. Just a little sample here. Now, again, I do not have the actual post that got her taken down from Twitter, but I I don't think it was for posting these videos because nobody cares about the videos from the street. But recently she's posted things like about how she got in at 6 a .m. to an Uber and the guy didn't speak English. And she says mass deportations need to happen and they need to happen now because my Uber driver doesn't speak language, that kind of thing.

1:08:25 Lydia: From gotcha

1:08:48 Thomas: I would prefer my Uber driver not speak English. Do not speak to me in any way. That's fantastic. That's the best possibility.

1:08:51 Matt: But yeah, she's all about White Lives Matter. She's recently been to one of those rallies. Last name Hernandez, Hernandez, of course, but no, she's not. She's Mexican -American. So, yep. There you go.

1:09:01 Thomas: Wait, what? Is she white?

1:09:07 Matt: Just a little taste.

1:09:07 Thomas: She's Mexican American and to the white lives matter.

1:09:11 Matt: Yeah. Well, they are officially white. Latinos are white according to the federal government. Yeah, that's an interesting immigration designation.

1:09:16 Thomas: That's news. I don't think that's true.

1:09:19 Matt: That's not how most people think of it, but yeah, that is officially white Latino. So Seamus Bruner at 5254, he's kind of an interesting interesting guy. This is one of those guys that if you're not listening too closely that Bernie fans might like, but when you listen to him, what he's actually saying, not so much. I had not encountered this person before.

1:09:19 Thomas: I'm going to disagree with that. Do you want me to hit play or?

1:09:45 Matt: Good.

1:09:44 Clip: Thank you very much great great job impassioned that's important because you should feel like that please go ahead mr. president thank you for having us here and bringing together this panel

1:09:50 Thomas: Wait a minute that's just the twin of the guy got thrown in the hole it's like the the mirror image

1:09:58 Lydia: Did you

1:09:58 Clip: Of brave brave journalists everybody on this side of the room and

1:10:02 Thomas: He's like especially that good looking guy hole guy over there what

1:10:05 Clip: One can speak to the violence better than these people here so I think we know that this is not just a story about violence and chaos as you alluded to mr.

1:10:09 Lydia: Hear that burn by the way he said like these you know the

1:10:11 Thomas: Did he say yeah sorry yeah

1:10:13 Clip: President this is a money story and at the government Government Accountability Institute, my colleague and I, Peter Schweizer and I and our team, we followed the money and we followed it to the top of what we call the protest industrial complex, Riot Inc.

1:10:13 Lydia: Incredible journalists on this side of the room who

1:10:29 Clip: And we found a network of NGOs. It's not just the Soros Network, the Open Society Network, it's other funding networks, the Arabella Funding Network, The Tides Funding network, Neville Roy Singham and his network, Foreign Cash.

1:10:28 Thomas: Writing this sounds like what's her name that we covered huh sounds

1:10:43 Clip: And it's also big left -wing funders. Some of them are not citizens of this country, Mr. Hans -Jorg Wiese of Switzerland, they're pouring money into this entire ecosystem. And so I want to share three money facts with you about what we call Riot Inc. Number one, like any corporation, Riot Inc has many divisions. It doesn't just have the Antifa boots on the ground division. It has PR divisions. It has marketing divisions.

1:10:47 Thomas: Like um oh yeah sales sales. Yeah.

1:11:07 Matt: Accounting.

1:11:07 Clip: It has a very well -funded legal division to get these boots on the ground back on the streets as quickly as possible. Possible, but it does have those investors that I mentioned.

1:11:11 Matt: That's me. That's very true.

1:11:13 Thomas: Matt, you're not well -funded. I disagree.

1:11:17 Clip: Number two, we have identified dozens of radical organizations, not just the decentralized Antifa organizations, but dozens of organizations that have received more than $100 million from the Riot, Inc. investors. These would be the lawyer groups. These would the groups that advocate for calling good, honest Americans fascists, et cetera. And then three, I think the most shocking thing is that we have found that more than $100 million in US taxpayer funding has flowed into these funding networks,

1:11:11 Lydia: Patreon

1:11:17 Matt: Where's my funding?

1:11:18 Lydia: .com slash law yeah

1:11:19 Thomas: Disagree. No.

1:11:50 Clip: Including at least $4 million to these very groups themselves, not just Antifa types. But there was an event in Atlanta called Stop Cop City. Over 60 rioters were charged with domestic terrorism. Tourism, these groups received money for that from both the billionaire class as well as taxpayer money. So, one

1:11:51 Lydia: There's no way

1:12:10 Thomas: The billionaire class. Oh you're, not a fan of the billionaire class in this room?

1:12:12 Clip: Other thing, this money helps fund the decentralized crowdfunding platforms.

1:12:13 Lydia: Interesting oh Stephen Miller yawning

1:12:13 Matt: There was actually a voter referendum. So yes, that would happen.

1:12:17 Clip: These are ways that Antifa... Do

1:12:19 Thomas: Well, when he doesn't get to do the yelly fascism, he's bored. What were you saying Matt?

1:12:22 Lydia: Look and trump is like rubbing his eyes

1:12:24 Thomas: Yeah, that's as alert as he ever looks

1:12:22 Matt: And Trump's about to pass out because nobody's mentioned Trump. I just wanted to mention, I'm sure that everybody's going to be shocked that if you follow the money on Seamus Bruner, it goes pretty quickly to Steve Bannon and Robert Mercer. The Government Accountability Institute is a complete joke. Everything he's saying is a joke. He's obviously, what he's talking about decentralized organizations and they're just, It's not even worth trying to track down the kind of stuff he's talking about, but there is so much money behind the Government Accountability Institute and Steve Bannon and Robert Mercer. Robert Mercher, of course, funding some of the worst stuff in the country that's going on right now and allowing a lot of this kind of staff to happen. So just thought it was worth mentioning this guy who's obsessed with following the money. It's pretty easy to follow his if you'd like to.

1:12:36 Lydia: I believe it yeah

1:13:09 Matt: So he's just in here to provide the gravitas of pretending that there's some kind of funding or that there's something that the FBI, I mean, it's all ridiculous, but this is an important component of the story, right? Is that there is a funding network that can be taken down by the federal government sometime before Trump falls asleep.

1:13:26 Lydia: Right I mean which is why they're like directing the irs to investigate you know tax exempt entities and and uh yeah just anyone who might be chief of staff she was the campaign pain manager well we talked about her

1:13:26 Thomas: Wait

1:13:33 Matt: The true enemies.

1:13:35 Thomas: Who's suzy wiles okay I feel like we that's right yeah that's sound familiar I was like oh who's that old lady boy

1:13:44 Matt: Classic evil name, Susie Wiles. All right, that's probably enough of Seamus Brunner. You're getting the idea. Yeah,

1:13:44 Lydia: Suzy wiles oh

1:13:47 Thomas: These people well what's the one the mom donnie funding thing they did hun uh with what's her name it just seemed like those kind of tactics where they just probably look at like the overall budgets of certain organizations that have once once donated like 20 bucks to somebody. And then they say like, I love, I thought I heard he said like $400 million of which 4 million had gone to or something. It was something like that. What did he say? It's just, it reeks of bullshit. Oh, well, like you said, it's, it'S obvious bullshit. What, what do we want to go to next here?

1:14:21 Matt: Let's skip some more obvious bullshit because it's just too obvious to talk about.

1:14:24 Thomas: I mean, it all is, man. If we're going to skip that, that's the whole thing. So I guess we'll just pick our, pick our obvious bullshit poison here. Here oh

1:14:27 Matt: We Now, Nick Shirley and Cam Higby, we can skimp. I don't find any of that to be interesting. They're just typical Islamophobia and anti -whatever. But let's go to Jonathan Cho at 102 .37. Another dark money operation. Jonathan Cho, the Discovery Institute.

1:14:47 Clip: You really do? Okay, please. Go ahead. Yeah. Mr. President, thank you again. Thank you. My name's Jonathan Cho. I am an investigative reporter for Frontline's Turning Point USA, I'm also a senior fellow at Discovery Institute in Seattle. And I cover far left extremism as well as the homeless drug crisis in America. And I find it oftentimes those worlds intersect. And hot off the presses, what I wanted to bring to your attention today is

1:14:47 Lydia: Interesting azra

1:15:04 Matt: Senior fellow. The

1:15:07 Lydia: Namani by the way yeah oh

1:15:08 Thomas: Wait who's that child in a suit to the right no

1:15:18 Lydia: James

1:15:18 Clip: A report from a capital research center here in DC in conjunction with Discovery Institute.

1:15:19 Lydia: Klug oh oh the baby baby Yeah.

1:15:24 Clip: They just put out this study right now and what it shows is that Antifa is heavily embedded in the homeless and housing nonprofit sector in many cases the homeless industrial complex is running cover for Antifa and Tifa is benefiting from American tax dollars and they're essentially being used as the muscle let me give you an example there's a group called stop the sweeps in many US cities right now they get in front of encampment sweeps what they're doing quietly is they're bringing in Antifa militants to manufacture a crisis to make the police look bad another group right

1:15:24 Thomas: See the toddler over there oh I thought he was saying in the homeless that'd be so funny I

1:15:40 Matt: Homeless Industrial Complex. What are you talking about?

1:15:46 Thomas: Bet and

1:16:05 Matt: Wouldn't

1:16:05 Clip: Now that is behind Antifa and working with Antifa very closely based on the research that we have right now that we're going to give to you and your team are

1:16:06 Matt: Know anything about that.

1:16:13 Thomas: It's there's it's printeded out so you know it's real I

1:16:15 Lydia: That's Nick Shirley, who we skipped over, by the way, that baby.

1:16:17 Thomas: Already love this like I love that like because this is this entire fascist effort well we've talked about it on on other shows too it's a marriage of like three, four distinct groups, but one of them is the wealthy. I love that all of these, as you say, that the money guy a second ago, all of These obviously billionaire funded bullshits have to point to how everything else is super well funded the homeless, you know, the homeless there's the homeless industrial complex, then you got the Antifa industrial complex. And then you get like, it's the soup kitchen industrial cut, you might as well pick like the most unfunded things there could be and then scare us about money which is so funny because you're that like you're all the money people and then you want to like it's using like the general um valid kind of criticism of big money and it's it's like using that and weaponizing it in the interest of big money itself it's so

1:16:43 Matt: It's manufactured. Homeless industrial complex. Yep.

1:17:18 Thomas: Funny oh my god I

1:17:19 Matt: Yep. No. And apparently all of these homeless people are receiving a lot of money, but are choosing to be, I don't know what the deal is. He's an

1:17:25 Thomas: Don't know well it'sso it'slike there we've come across this in something else where it's like it's the homeless industrial complex they they keep them homeless matt here's the thing you might not know this I feel like I covered this on a different show they keep them homeless because that's where the money is because because when they're homeless then they get money to help them it's sort of like how the drug companies keep everybody sick so that they can give them medicine or something even though that's not how it works it's that kind of theory it's just as stupid as that it's more stupid than that actually well

1:17:39 Matt: Army. Right. Right. I have to apologize for being this petty, but this man did not wear a colored shirt to the White House. He's wearing a t -shirt. He's bringing a white t - shirt to the white house. He's got a suit jacket, but it's a white T -shirt I can't take anything. He says, seriously.

1:18:03 Thomas: If we're being petty why is is this guy's collar halfway up his head? What is that? Is that just how, hon, I need your fashion pointers. Why does this guy'S collar go into his skull? It's like that.

1:18:06 Matt: Oh, they're very bad at this. It's terrible. It's just fused

1:18:17 Thomas: Is what, is this how his neck is, I guess?

1:18:17 Matt: Into it.

1:18:19 Lydia: Could just be how his neck is. He seems like he has a skinny neck.

1:18:21 Thomas: It's like the different, we have a three bears in collars. We got pretty normal collar, no collar, and then too much fucking collar. He has, that might be a second collar. He has like two on top of each other all right I guess I don't know if we finished this guy

1:18:33 Lydia: Just layering like polos.

1:18:35 Matt: I just have to point out the Discovery Institute is funded by Leonard Leo Donors Trust. So this is another PSYOP, another, you can't really call it a think tank, it's just straight dark money. And the main job of the organization, just to make sure we get on this, is to prove that evolution is scientifically debatable. That's there.

1:18:37 Clip: The democratic socialists

1:18:53 Thomas: That's so funny because I that was my memory I was like that's what the discovery institute was but then every time I hear about them now they're just doing different fascist stuff I was like did that's is it a different one but no okay it's the same one gotcha

1:19:05 Matt: He's way off mission on this but I guess Leonard Leo buys buys him a plane ticket, and here he goes.

1:19:07 Thomas: It's well I I don't KNOW IF THEY EITHER GAVE UP ON THAT BECAUSE THAT WAS THE INTELLIGENT DESIGN BULLSHIT that that's a lot of, you know, I focused on that a lot in the early tens, you know, cause that was a, but I don't know if they either, they won or gave up. I actually don't know. Like now they're on to like a big homeless and, and Antifa ink and all this crap.

1:19:16 Matt: A lot to say.

1:19:24 Lydia: Depends on the state, maybe. So weird.

1:19:29 Matt: Homeless industrial complex is amazing.

1:19:29 Lydia: Is that report

1:19:30 Clip: Of America, also known as DSA.

1:19:31 Lydia: Anywhere, Matt? Did you find that report that he printed out? The thing that he print it out? Yeah, I know.

1:19:34 Thomas: Oh, that's right there on the table. I

1:19:36 Lydia: But I want it. I want to find it. Yeah.

1:19:37 Matt: I'll have to find it. No.

1:19:36 Thomas: Know. I'm just kidding. He hand delivered it to the president himself.

1:19:41 Lydia: All right. Well, I guess I'll have to call the White House.

1:19:42 Clip: Again, these far -left

1:19:43 Thomas: Oh, whoa. If you hold it, it goes faster. That's weird

1:19:46 Clip: Progressive groups tend to be aligning themselves with Antifa. So finally, in closing, what I wanted to thank you again, Mr. President, is that a few months ago, earlier this year, you put out an executive order on homelessness and the drug addiction crisis in America, and that's sent the entire homeless industrial complex on the run. You have absolutely moved the needle and changed the game. But what's also come out again is that there is a connection a deeply embedded connection with the homeless housing nonprofit game in America connected to Antifa and the far left activists and

1:19:51 Thomas: Game

1:19:54 Matt: There we go. The worst one yet.

1:20:20 Thomas: Help

1:20:22 Clip: Finally I just wanted to say that all of our resources at Turning Point USA and Discovery Institute are at your disposal and we will continue again to carry on the legacy of Charlie Kirk he would have wanted us to pursue and chase the story well he was a good friend of mine as you know and he helped us get elected us it really is us it's

1:20:23 Matt: This is so evil, this very real story.

1:20:39 Thomas: Us win yeah let's get elected I could have just predicted what is it and then yeah so we got elected and the election the fucking

1:20:42 Clip: Even some of them but not too many of them

1:20:42 Matt: This ist so evil. I mean, because they've already, the Trump administration, we've covered this in OA several times now, about that executive order he mentioned is really scary. And Janice had a lot to say about it, about the way they want to institutionalize people, get them off the streets, and just lock them up wherever. And that, combined with grants passed that we've looked at pretty extensively, giving local and state governments the power to just criminalize homelessness. But then you start to say that they're associated with Antifa, and you get them into the ambit of that memo that we looked at and the executive order, and you've got got another level here it's just evil it's dark yeah

1:21:16 Thomas: Looking at all of like compassionate efforts by people who actually care about stuff and then trying to label it like some evil and I don't know like I think a lot of it is just lying but also maybe some amount of it is just not understanding that other humans have empathy and being like what's what's in it what's their angle the next are going to be like there's a major big funded operation called child cancer and they got so much money and they keep them it's like every like puppies that are being adopted and you know it's all the most sympathetic things that people are trying to help with that are underfunded and then they're like it's big that you know I was like okay

1:21:20 Matt: Conspiracy yeah yeah no

1:21:31 Lydia: Yeah. What's in it for them? Yeah.

1:21:52 Matt: It's yeah it's

1:21:52 Thomas: You could just say big that and then that's scary

1:21:52 Matt: The kind of people that can't accept they they just can't except that some of us actually will come out on a saturday just to protest because we don't like what's going on and without getting paid

1:22:01 Thomas: That can't be it matt well

1:22:03 Lydia: Think it's incredible, too. Like when you look at kind of what happened, just this thing overall, It's all these people that are, quote unquote, journalists, right, independent journalists, and how they're being attacked by Antifa and running to the White House for help, et cetera. And then simultaneously, we get a new page on the website called Media Offenders, where the government is literally calling people like the worst of the worst fake news, you know, and calling out CNN on their just various things. It's kind of crazy I mean it's beyond crazy at this point um but when I saw that go up it just like made me feel sick um it's just every single thing that gets added to it makes me feel sick so yeah

1:22:46 Matt: Just alternate reality where these people are journalists and uh you know sienna is

1:22:52 Thomas: We're way out of time so why don't don't we pick our best one to go out with maybe no

1:22:55 Lydia: I know what you're gonna pick whole guy yeah

1:23:00 Thomas: What no are we done did we cover everything

1:23:01 Matt: I mean, that's pretty much it.

1:23:04 Thomas: Oh okay there's a half hour left so I assumed you had more it

1:23:08 Matt: Not worth watching. James Kluge talks about the dozens of murders at BLM riots, but of course, he's talking about the protesters that were killed, not the protesters killing people. But yeah, totally counts, obviously. Murders did happen. Happen. Yeah. So anyway, it just keeps repeating. This is just beating you over the head with Antifa nonsense. But there's a purpose to it. I mean, this is all for a reason. They want to sell this narrative as hard as they can so that they can use it to do what they want to do. And you just keep coming back to that memo, this national security memo in the executive order, because that's what this is about. And this was all held within a couple of weeks of those coming down. So this is a whole part of the narrative.

1:23:18 Thomas: Counts oh boy well are we are we wrapping it there wow okay well then we better thank our final most important patrons our top top top patrons at patreon.com/seriouspod who made this happen thank you to the cincinnati kid Blah, blah, blah's law podcast. Philly Basement Bar is busy organizing. Elect Thomas Smith president, American Honky Tonk Bar Association. Balticate, Philip Kaiser. I hope Democratic politicians have the guts to wear shirts that say quiet piggy next to the State of the Union. That's not bad. I like that.

1:23:54 Matt: That's what we got.

1:24:19 Lydia: Man yeah Yeah.

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1:24:33 Lydia: Mitchell. Palindrome. Yeah. You might, you might need to, you might be able to do a haiku depending on how many characters it is because it's all just about syllables.

1:24:55 Thomas: That's that's tricky yeah it's true if you get some quick like low letter high syllable kind of dense syllable dense words you could do it

1:25:03 Lydia: I feel like there's a patron out there who can get that figured out.

1:25:06 Thomas: They will and they will thank you so much patrons and thanks everyone for watching and listening thanks Matt for suffering through the Antifa roundtable that had no pizza at all and Lydia of course as well

1:25:18 Lydia: Only one hole. Only one One hole, no pizza.

1:25:23 Thomas: Yeah I don't watch those unless there's minimum three holes I don't know that doesn't work

1:25:25 Lydia: I don't know. I'm just bringing it back to something enjoyable.

1:25:30 Thomas: Matt' s gonna force Ghost back to the opposite end of the galaxy and we' ll see everyone next time so

1:25:36 Lydia: See ya.

1:25:37 Matt: Stay out of those holes. Yeah.

1:25:41 Thomas: Good