WTW68: MSG Trump Rally Part 3 OH MY the Hits Keep Coming

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0:00:03 Clip: What's so scary about the woke mob, how often you just don't see them coming.

0:00:11 Clip: Anywhere you see diversity, equity, and inclusion, you see Marxism, and you see woke principles being pushed.

0:00:19 Clip: Wokeness is a virus more dangerous than any pandemic hands down. The woke monster is here, and it's coming for everything, everything, everything, and everything. Instead of go -go boots, the seductress green M&M will now wear sneakers.

0:00:42 Thomas: And welcome to Where There's Woke. This is episode, if I, let's see, let me check with Arlo, 68?

0:00:47 Lydia: 68.

0:00:47 Thomas: 68. 68. And I am Thomas, that over there is Lydia, and are now both inpatient at mental health facility for what we've gone through. Both good and bad highs and lows yep that was it's not just for acoustics everyone it's for the crap we put Lydia through and also me sometimes not in this case this was all you so what fresh hell are we looking at today and

0:00:59 Lydia: I mean, my closet's already padded. So yes, thank you. This is all me. We have a number of folks that we're going to get through. Going kick it off with Tulsi Gabbard. You know, we're gonna get into some crazier territory, and I don't want to give too much away, though I kind of teased a little bit in the last episode. There's a lot of folks that we need to talk about before we get to the man himself, Donald Trump, which will probably be in the next episode. We'll see.

0:01:39 Thomas: Here's the thing by now you've heard the greatest thing to ever happen on podcasting which was was Eat David Rem calling in and

0:01:44 Lydia: Calling in. Can you believe it?

0:01:46 Thomas: I bring it up because I it's very good we're doing this because I didn't see that David Rem clip anywhere I'm not saying it's nowhere don't get me wrong everything's everywhere someone's doing something but I didn't See it and so like I think this rally was so fucking long that only Lydia and a few other other poor lost souls managed to get through it. And like, I sent that clip to Eli and I said, I said like, you, you have to watch this. I know it's, he's, He's a busy guy. I don't, I don'T do that often. Pick I pick, my moments.

0:02:16 Thomas: If he, if he was just any, any normal friend, you send them whatever. And you just expect they're going to watch it. Cause they're a friend and then they don't.

0:02:16 Lydia: Of course. Of course.

0:02:22 Thomas: But with Eli, I'm like ,I pick my mom's. I'm I'm NOT going to throw a bunch of stuff. Eli Bosnick's a business, guy, he's the funniest he's kind of podcasting he's got a lot to do I saw that fucking david rem thing and I was like you have you have to see this and I'm so glad I did because it was every bit as good as I thought it was and it was definitely eli doing a bit so oh and so the point is there's so much stuff in here that hasn't gotten covered because there's too much to cover there's Too Much for not just for us for the whole media and so I'm glad we're really digging in and so after this break which you can avoid at patreon.com/wherethereswoke and you can fund lydia's mental health bills

0:02:40 Lydia: It was amazing. Yeah. Yeah, I was gonna say I need more foam in here. So

0:03:02 Thomas: Yeah you have foam fmo foam foam fomo that doesn't work fear no yeah uh and that's that's fair I deserve it um I think he would have let fomo no okay anyway patreon.com/wherethereswoke avoid the shitty ads and help support the show thank you so much to those who do and after this we'll get to some horrible and possibly hilariously terrible people okay

0:03:08 Lydia: Where's Heath? Do it. Right. Tulsi Gabbard followed Vivek.

0:03:38 Thomas: Tulsi Gabbard. I mean, I know none of us are shocked anymore, more but well for one I called this a long time ago um sure a lot of people did but like she's just been a republican for a while but it also it still is eerie and makes no sense to me I the one that hillary said was a russian asset I think right and you know like with all that's happened and with finding out that a lot of those right wing media people are Russian assets, maybe she's a fucking Russian asset, like I don't actually know, it doesn't make any sense. It's I mean, to see her speaking at this Trump fucking Nazi rally is it's still it still is a little shocking. Not going to lie. It's a little shock.

0:04:15 Lydia: And, you know, because of her experience in the military, she talks about how voting for the GOP is a vote for peace and war. So 243, 37.

0:04:26 Thomas: Who pulled America out OF Afghanistan? Was it Trump or was it Biden?

0:04:31 Lydia: The whole thing is they say like, you yes, Biden did it, but it was a disaster.

0:04:35 Thomas: He did it badly. Yeah, but weird that he didn't do it. Yeah he could have just done it what

0:04:36 Lydia: Exactly. And if Trump did it it wouldn't have been a disaster? Yeah. Yeah, yeah.

0:04:41 Clip: So this choice that we have before us as Americans is critical, it's important to us, it is important to those of us who serve, who have volunteered to put our lives on the line for the safety, security, and freedom of our country and our people, and it's critical to all of us. Here is the choice that have.

0:05:04 Clip: A vote for Kamala Harris, is a vote for Dick Cheney, and it's a vote, for war, more war, likely World War III, and nuclear war.

0:05:13 Thomas: Sure who are we gonna

0:05:17 Clip: A vote, Donald Trump, is the vote for a man, who wants to end wars, not start them, and who has demonstrated, already, that he has the courage, and strength, to stand up, and fight for peace.

0:05:17 Thomas: Go to war with what the fuck you talking about I

0:05:35 Clip: A, vote for, Kamala, Harris is a, vote, for open borders where known violent criminals and Islamist terrorists are streaming across our borders, placing us at risk. A vote for Donald Trump is a vote for secure borders and safe communities and a confidence that he will seek out those who seek to do us harm and get them out. A

0:05:50 Thomas: Hate terrorists yeah not wrong that Trump is anti -war I don't think Trump I you know I think we thought this in 2016 but I don' t think there's that much of a danger of him getting us into war but I mean there also is a certain percentage of just which way the fucking wind blows like if there's the minute it's convenient for him to do it he would but I but I don't think he naturally wants to he's isolationist he doesn't want to do that um where's this idea that like kamala is this warmonger like what could you even claim I mean I guess the closest thing would be like she supports zelensky in ukraine and so therefore it's gonna be a but like that's such a weak argument who Who thinks she's, so because Dick Cheney endorsed her, well, yeah, I mean that, that part's fine.

0:06:27 Lydia: Know. Yeah, because Dick Cheney endorsed her and Dick Cheney can be tied to the war in Iraq, obviously. Yeah. So now, you B, B plus C.

0:06:51 Thomas: That's amazing. Yeah. That's a, that's amazing trans yeah. Transitive property, but yeah ,I don't think that that's, yeah. That'sa weak argument. That's really funny. I that' one I hadn't heard before. I didn' know they were doing that. Like trying, trying to make her out to be, trying to make Kamala out to be the warm. It's just so stupid.

0:07:10 Lydia: All right. And now we get to Mr. Robert F. Kennedy Jr.

0:07:15 Thomas: Oh my God. Oh, what? I thought he was on the left. I thought it was just a better real Democrat. He was just about weird. Why is he here? That doesn't make sense.

0:07:24 Lydia: His whole thing was insane. Honestly, I was like, we could just listen to the whole thing. We can't like that's going to take way too long. But like seven minutes long. But it's the whole the whole thing is. It's nuts. Know. We can start at 249 .02 and see how long you want to go.

0:07:34 Thomas: Seven minutes of heaven. Okay, okay. Ooh, don't tempt me.

0:07:44 Lydia: Yeah.

0:07:55 Clip: Lot of people ask me why I left the Democratic Party. And I say, I don't leave the Democratic party.

0:08:02 Thomas: No, no one does. They left me.

0:08:11 Clip: The Democratic party left me.

0:08:14 Thomas: Yeah, good.

0:08:16 Clip: This is not the party anymore of Martin Luther King, of Robert Kennedy, of John Kennedy. That was the party of peace. It was the part of constitutional rights, of civil rights, a freedom of speech. It's the party that wanted to protect and nurture the middle class. It is the party stood up to censorship, to surveillance. I stood up for the CIA, the military complex, military industrial complex, and

0:08:17 Thomas: I'd leave you again.

0:08:54 Lydia: Elon's like, shut up, man. Those are my contracts on the line.

0:08:58 Clip: It was the party that wanted to protect public health, and, and women's sports.

0:09:04 Thomas: Yeah. What?

0:09:01 Lydia: Oh, wait. You know what? We did. Like the party that wanted to protect public health by issuing COVID mandates and creating a vaccine faster than anybody ever wanted to. And you didn't want to protect Public Health because you thought the vaccine was evil. All

0:09:18 Thomas: To be fair, under Trump, the vaccine was created.

0:09:21 Lydia: Trump. Yeah, that's fine. That's fine, but then all the.

0:09:24 Thomas: Or developed or started and developed. I can't remember. Yeah. Oh,

0:09:28 Clip: My uncle, Ted Kennedy, wrote Title IX, which protected women's

0:09:40 Thomas: God, Republicans cheering for Ted Kennedy. What a world. A worldview. What a country we live in.

0:09:45 Lydia: Remember when we did our Title IX episode and that was Title IX. What got all the headlines was regarding women athletics in college, like that needing to be fair and equitable, scholarship opportunities, access to facilities, et cetera. Yeah. But the other part of Title IX that I think a lot of the people in this room thinks has gone far, I'm pretty sure they would say this, is the the protection of women or students, just students in general, honestly, from sexual assault on college campus, because that's an impact to equal education as well. And that that is a key part of Title IX. And I just it was so funny. They're like like, attacking. Glomming on to the athletics pieces of

0:09:57 Thomas: Like it was originally written. Yeah. Yeah. It doesn't matter. Every single thing anyone on this stage says is an argument of convenience. It's like, I know that happens sometimes in politics, but like, it's 80 % of this. It's all argument of convenience. Whatever is convenient to try to like paint the other side as hypocritical or, oh, do you see like Ted Kennedy was the fan? Like they don't, they don'T keep track of it.

0:10:50 Thomas: They DON'T care. It doesn't matter. In the moment, it sounds like an own of Democrats. So great. Awesome. Him oh

0:10:56 Clip: Party that believed in voting rights and fought for the right of every American to vote for the person of their choice. Today's Democratic Party is the party of war, is the Party of the CIA, you had Kamala Harris giving a speech at the Democratic Convention that was written by neocons, that was belligerent, Ignatius, that talked about, The domination of the world by the United States through our weapons of war.

0:11:02 Thomas: What

0:11:02 Lydia: So good.

0:11:09 Thomas: What what

0:11:21 Lydia: Yeah.

0:11:29 Clip: It's the party today that wants to divide Americans. It is the party that is dismantling women's sports by letting men play women's sport.

0:11:28 Thomas: I watched that speech I don't yeah who

0:11:38 Lydia: Just all about women's sports yeah

0:11:39 Clip: It, it's the Party of Wall Street, it is the Party Bill Gates, who just gave 50 million dollars to Kamala Harris.

0:11:43 Thomas: Is doing where is that happening interesting

0:11:45 Lydia: Says a rich kennedy yeah who

0:12:02 Clip: Is very proud that it received the endorsement of 50 former CIA agents and officers and

0:11:57 Thomas: Yeah

0:12:11 Lydia: Are these people like booing law enforcement incredible

0:12:12 Clip: Of John Bolton and of Dick Cheney. These are the people that gave us a war in Iraq, the worst foreign policy catastrophe that's ever happened to this country. These were the people who gave us the Patriot Act and launched The surveillance state, these are the people that are trying to undermine voting rights in this country, by weaponizing the federal agencies against political candidates, including me and Donald Trump and all other political candidates that can't win an election, and instead of bringing in a candidate who wins the primaries, abolish the primers, and then pick two candidates, Anointed them without receiving votes. We don't even know how Kamala Harris received the nomination. And

0:12:20 Thomas: It's very interesting what yeah

0:12:37 Lydia: What uh what yeah

0:13:16 Thomas: We do it was in a roll call thing that they did

0:13:16 Lydia: We do the

0:13:21 Clip: This is the party of Wall Street, of big banks, of

0:13:28 Thomas: You're just describing the Republican Party for almost all of that like that's that's a pretty cool thing because like I okay I do Think that the Republican party has distanced from the Iraq war and it's one thing to be like that it's not us anymore it's another thing to be like well that's not Us anymore so it must be the other people it must Be the people who were against it back then or at least some of them were against but yeah like of the people people who are against it, they were pretty much all Democrats. That's a weird thing to do.

0:13:30 Lydia: Republicans yeah yes I know know. Yeah, they're the ones that did it. Some of them. Yeah.

0:14:00 Lydia: Despite who the president at the time was and everything.

0:14:02 Thomas: But once again, the way he's doing is, well, you by Dick Cheney. So therefore it's like, what are you talking about, man? So stupid.

0:14:12 Lydia: You got to hear him list all the bigs.

0:14:13 Thomas: Okay. Ooh, big data.

0:14:14 Clip: Big Data, of the big tech,

0:14:16 Thomas: Big tech. Okay like elon musk yeah big

0:14:16 Clip: Of military contractors, and the parties of Big Pharma, Big Egg, Big Food, and Big Chemicals. Is the party that's giving us the sickest jokes,

0:14:27 Thomas: Chemicals yeah

0:14:27 Lydia: Does he realize these are all the people that are giving all the money to Trump's campaign like these are these are people who benefit all the Biggs are the people who Benefit from Republicans being in office because then you deregulate everything. I he is just it's remarkable to me that he ended up going. I mean, it's not that surprising, I guess. He's he's just crazy. And like every like you said, everything he's describing is the GOP is the Republican Party platform at this point in time is describing all of their donors. He goes, went off about Bill Gates donating $50 million to the Harris campaign. His pack, while he was still in the race, was kept afloat by one man, Timothy Mellon, who donated a lot of money for him. Mellon donated about $165 million overall to the 2024 election. He's the most, the largest contributor for the entire election and considered like an angel donor. And then obviously, mostly contributed to Trump's pack. Guy is man. He obviously comes from a lot of money, a well -to -do family. I think his grandfather was the Secretary of the Treasury or something at one point in time. Anyway, he grew up in a mansion in Virginia, but he went to school in Massachusetts. Anytime he had to go back to school, he had a private plane that That just like took him from Virginia to Massachusetts.

0:15:53 Thomas: Wow a true man of the people this this guy my

0:15:57 Lydia: He. He a book that he wrote that wrote that black voters were awarded freebies in exchange for delivering votes. Claimed that this the largesse is funded by the hardworking folks who are too honest or too proud to allow themselves to sink into this morass. He said that in for that, for kind of succumbing to this, I think he said it was like slavery redux, he said that Black Americans were becoming more belligerent and slaves of a new master, Uncle Sam. Yeah, this is the guy who funded RFK's campaign. The next person who donated the most to RFK'S campaign was the person that he know, nominated know selected for vp yeah yeah Shanahan yeah right we can call it there for rfk jr um think so uh

0:16:37 Thomas: Man oh really okay it is funny that like he he decides to do say I've I've left the the Democratic Party. Here's who I hate. It's a bunch of stuff that is all just describes the Republican Party, but I'm going to say it's the Democratic party. It'S kind of weird.

0:16:55 Lydia: The people in this room yeah

0:16:56 Thomas: Yeah. And then they're like, yeah, it's like, what? But I think that dynamic is going to be really interesting when it comes to the big pharma thing. Cause, cause there you're right. That think it goes to show that as much as a lot of right -wing bullshit ultimately is about billionaires protecting their interests there's also a part of it that is genuine insanity that there's there's conspiratorial thinking there's stuff that they try to use that that that try to harness but it's not you can't always harness it and you can'T predict the insanity of conspiracy theories and actually there is a an uncomfortable tension I imagine for some of those rich donors in those companies be like oh well wait I do want all the tax cut stuff but if you appoint someone who's anti like vaccine to the highest levels of government in this fucking guy like what's that gonna do to my business so it is a weird thing I don't I don'T really like I'm not rooting for anyone really I mean I am rooting for science I think it's bad to be anti -vax because it's not scientific it's wrong and it's harmful it's dangerous but I don' t care about like like the pharma companies necessarily.

0:18:06 Thomas: So it's just an interesting, I'm curious to see how that goes, you know? Like, yeah,

0:18:11 Lydia: Another example of that was um gave an interview on fox about um of what what he'd like to see change with regard to you know know, groceries and, and healthy food for kids. Cause like he does, he theorists, but, and he's like all in organic, right? Like he, he care about, um, health of children. And I think he gets there in some really dangerous ways. Um, you can tell like things that he's concerned about is like, oh, you know, like processed food, the salt, the amount of salt that's in food, et cetera, etetera. And he's Like, we need to sure that all kids have access to you three organic meals a day at school, blah, blah. And it's incredible because it's like, you think you're going to get that through Republican Congress? They're never going to pay for that.

0:18:56 Thomas: They don't like feeding kids.

0:18:59 Lydia: No, they don't. They don't they didn't even want to feed kids during COVID when that was the only food those kids had access to was their school meals. They don't want to food kids.

0:19:13 Lydia: They I think we'd see between those two entities.

0:19:17 Thomas: That's interesting. So I it possible to top rfk jr can it be done yeah

0:19:24 Lydia: Yes. Okay. No spoilers so let's just go straight to 257 50 and we can watch this person enter the stage yes

0:19:34 Thomas: Here we go who's gonna be is it? You don't get to use the brilliant music of people whose rights you're trying to take away. What was that? A laugh. Oh, my God. Holy. Hold it. Hold on. New sound clip for opening arguments. Thanking the patrons. Thank you. This insane person. I need to hear that again. Again. I'm sorry. Is crazy.

0:20:21 Clip: I saw the Grateful Dead in this arena in 1987. I was seated right there. How weird. It's, it's so, it is such an honor to be here, and it's wild. Just another day following Bobby Kennedy Jr. at a Donald Trump rally in Madison Square Garden. I mean, what?

0:20:25 Thomas: Fuck you. And now you suck.

0:20:43 Clip: That's totally normal.

0:20:42 Thomas: What the? He's crazy. You got, you got, it is incredibly unfortunate that the people could not see what he did with his face.

0:20:47 Lydia: Lost his mind yeah this is tucker carlson by the way

0:20:54 Thomas: Yeah. Okay. If you don't know that you're not a listener to our show, but yes. Okay, OK, Tucker Carlson. Or this is an alien a la Men in Black that is in a Tucker Carlson suit because because that he just did a motion with his hands and face. That was it was hysterical. It was like and I mean that literally it was like, oh, like what is what is wrong with this guy? Is he is does he have something? Does he know? OK, I don't know.

0:21:04 Lydia: It could be that literally

0:21:21 Clip: Liz Cheney is out there, with Kamala Harris. And there's Bobby Kennedy calling to protect women's sports at a Trump rally. It's a realignment, it's unbelievable, and it, the fact that it's here is even sweeter. Imagine

0:21:31 Thomas: You're not doing that.

0:21:39 Lydia: So Tucker Carlson coming in I literally just wrote down in my notes his entrance is funny because and I had to play it um I'm glad we did but I want to get more into the meat of what he's talking about um so if you actually go to three hours even we're going to hear from him about kind of his predictions for how the selection is going to turn out no

0:21:46 Thomas: It is very funny. I

0:22:04 Clip: Stones that takes, the bravery that takes is incredible. Donald Trump's gonna win, he's gonna, I know that that's true. Why is Donald Trump gonna win? The people he's about to defeat have no idea. And they're panicked, they have no why people like Donald Trump. And their first theory was, well, Donald Trump is evil, so half the country's evil also. And that's one of the reasons they spent the last four years trying to destroy the country, because they're mad at its voters for liking Donald Trump, how much easier would it have been just to pause for 20 minutes and ask yourself honestly in some silent place, why do people like And if they had been honest enough to ask themselves that question, they would have come up with the two main reasons, and here's what they are. The first reason that people like Donald Trump is because he likes them. That's why.

0:22:39 Thomas: Well, what? What?

0:22:39 Lydia: The country the last four years yeah Yeah.

0:22:50 Thomas: Everyone did that after 2016.

0:22:52 Lydia: Mm hmm. Only white

0:23:02 Clip: And it's real. Affection is something you can't fake.

0:23:02 Lydia: People, white rich people and pretends for

0:23:06 Clip: I don't care how many times Kamala Harris would tell me she loves me, I don't believe her. I saw her kiss her husband with a mask on.

0:23:04 Thomas: Absolutely not. He, does not like them.

0:23:06 Lydia: Everybody else. Yeah.

0:23:16 Clip: A mask on! That's her version of love.

0:23:21 Thomas: What?

0:23:22 Clip: It's fake, it's not real, they spent 10 years telling you Trump is a hater, do you feel that on him?, no, you don't, because it's, not there, I've spent a lot of time with Trump, and there's not one moment I've ever been with him off -camera, where he's spending his time grousing about people he hates, ever, he's talking about the people and the country he loves, in his private time, trust me, and people know, in a country that has been taken over by a leadership class that actually despises them and their values and their history and their culture and their customs, really hates them, to the point that it's trying to replace them, they

0:23:24 Thomas: What do you? Yes.

0:23:39 Lydia: Liar. Literally lying. No.

0:23:46 Thomas: I don't. Yeah. Decline. Fine we

0:24:00 Clip: Know someone who actually has affection for them, and that's Donald Trump, and it's requited, it's required, they now, when he goes to McDonald's and serves fries, like, he's not faking that, at all, that's why that works, Democratic Media Consultant's like, how, how is that working? Cuz it's real, that's why.

0:24:00 Thomas: Don't care about your stupid fucking yeah you

0:24:00 Lydia: You hear that? You hear that? Replacement theory.

0:24:13 Thomas: Mean at the fake mcdonald's it wasn't open fact check it was

0:24:14 Lydia: Yeah.

0:24:20 Clip: And the second reason that people love Trump, and I put myself in this category, it's why I'm here today, is because he's liberated us, in the deepest and truest sense, and the liberation he has brought to us is the liberation from the obligation to tell lies.

0:24:28 Thomas: Not oh yeah this is really important jesus yeah

0:24:36 Lydia: Can you believe that?

0:24:37 Clip: Donald Trump has made it possible for the rest of us to tell the truth about the world around us. And that's the single most liberating thing you can do for people. If you want to enslave people, if you want degrade them, force them to tell lies. And they have. They forced us to lie about everything, at gunpoint, effectively.

0:24:37 Thomas: Well this is the stuff that is really nazi -esque really fascist oh Wow, geez.

0:24:59 Clip: They put people in prison for refusing to lie. And not just the obvious lies that men can become women, or, Vladimir Putin blew up the Nord Stream pipeline, no, honestly, he did.

0:25:00 Thomas: I don't think that's true they

0:25:11 Clip: January 6th was an insurrection, they were unarmed, but it was very insurrection -y.

0:25:11 Lydia: I don't know.

0:25:16 Clip: Not even the obvious ones, but the big lie. You know what the big is? The big lie is that they're impressive. That's what the Big Lie is. That the people in charge have somehow earned the right to rule over you, and they haven't. And you know that. These are the single most useless people in the United States. They have no skills whatsoever. They've got three -quarters of the money and they didn't earn it. They set up a system precisely for the purpose of awarding themselves wealth

0:25:16 Thomas: Were not unarmed what oh he's talking about donald trump and his billionaire

0:25:47 Clip: And power when it's undeserved.

0:25:47 Thomas: Friends yeah okay guy. Yeah.

0:25:49 Clip: You look at Liz Cheney and you ask yourself, honestly, what skill could she possibly have that allowed her to send hundreds of thousands of people to their deaths?

0:26:00 Thomas: What?

0:26:00 Clip: Did she earn that? I don't think she did.

0:26:02 Thomas: When

0:26:01 Lydia: I don'T know what he's talking about.

0:26:02 Thomas: Did, when did she do that?

0:26:04 Clip: Fair system would make Liz Cheney powerful, no fair system, would make Larry Fink rich, no -fair system would elevate someone like Kamala Harris, to a presidential nomination, she's never been, accused of doing anything useful, she has precisely no achievements, she is a nominee without getting a single vote, She is a metaphor for the system they created to make themselves rich and powerful, and then they have the gall to lecture you, the people who can actually change a flat tire and repair a power grid, who have

0:26:06 Thomas: She's not in government right now okay No fair system. Weird.

0:26:08 Lydia: Do you like how he's picking the woman? Yeah.

0:26:23 Thomas: What are you talking about? Repair

0:26:37 Clip: Useful jobs, who pay your taxes and work 40 hours a week, of

0:26:38 Lydia: Amazing coming from Tucker Carlson.

0:26:38 Thomas: A, I love that, that that this fucking little isn't he he's he inherited a bunch of wealth right isn't he the like Campbell's soup or something random yeah inherited a gajillion dollars he's always had his dorky little fucking nerd bow tie which nothing wrong with that except you're the very exact thing that that you're railing against right now Swanson something yeah oh the frozen food right yeah microwave dinner or something I know it's it's some he's a little lord he inherited his little lord lordling you know thing and he's he's bashing you know I'm not a fan of Liz Cheney I don't give a shit about any of that but like did did she deserve her wealth less than this little prince who inherited it with his little bow tie somehow. And then I love it. He doesn't actually know any of this stuff and trying to come up with two like down to earth examples. You fix a power grid is the okay I'm gonna give him change change yeah

0:26:58 Lydia: Swanson. I think so.

0:27:35 Thomas: Yeah change a flat tire okay he got that repair a power grid is that a common skill shit hon I don't know how to do that am I supposed to know know how to yeah

0:27:43 Lydia: I don't know. Apparently the way people are are cheering in this. A lot of them know how to do it. So, yeah.

0:27:47 Thomas: I definitely can repair a power grid for sure you just take the wires and then you get electrical tape and you put them together and then that works so weird thing targeting liz cheney I mean again she's a republican who obviously is anti -trump and and did show some a lot of backbone I think but she's not in she'snot in government she lost lost renomination she's she's not in anything right now it's weird to be like she's ascended to the whatever no she spoke out against trump and now she's not in government anymore so that kind of the opposite of what you're saying like this is the system they created to benefit now I didn't know it does say I didn' t know much about her because I don't really care but she is the oldest daughter obviously of dick cheney and she says she had several positions in in the State Department during the Bush administration. So I guess she promoted regime change. So yeah, she definitely sucked and probably still sucks. I know if you could say she sent anyone to their death. If you have a position in the state department, I think that's a claim to make. I think Cheney, Dick probably you

0:28:51 Thomas: Could say that. Yeah.

0:28:51 Lydia: And ultimately, I mean, I think you could also put that blame on a commander in chief, the person who's supposed to, you know.

0:28:57 Thomas: And Dick Chleney, the Republican. We've seen this flip with a number of them where they're They're taking stuff that's 100 percent Republicans faults, but it's been 20 years. So they can just say somehow that's now our fault because of this Liz Cheney endorsement. Like, it's so silly and and weak of a connection.

0:29:10 Lydia: And strange. Like, I really am wondering what's going on in people's minds there.

0:29:20 Thomas: Yeah. I don't remember really who Larry Fink is and I don'T care. And I don't. Yeah, if you want to talk about people who don't deserve their wealth, what did you do, little prince? Where'd you get your money? Where did you get all your starting money? How'd you gets your leg up?

0:29:33 Lydia: Also, Donald Trump. Where'd you get all your money, Donald trump?

0:29:35 Thomas: How did he, where'd he get his? It's so fucking rich, but it's also like so nakedly just racist and sexist. I mean, they, they all have the, again, there's the classic resume tests where if you take the exact resumes and you sub women's names versus men's names, people will come up with reasons why they think one's more qualified. It could be the, oh, the more practical experience and less education. That's, that's good. And then if it's a woman's name, well, they don't have the education, you know, and so it's like you can find ways to justify it. It's and racism is not. I don't like this person because of the color of their skin. That's like almost no one. I mean, there's obviously there are those, but they're very

0:29:37 Lydia: Silver spoon babies. Yeah. Mm hmm.

0:30:16 Thomas: Few, very few people think they're racist and are proud of it. Stephen Miller's probably one.

0:30:17 Lydia: In this day and age. Yeah, very few. Yeah

0:30:23 Thomas: There are a few, and they are in Trump's government. David Duke, yeah, a lot of those Nazis. Most racists don't think they're racist. It really is true. They don't Think they are. They don' t think they' re sexist. They don'' t think They are. They think, no, I just have a good reason for discounting the far more qualified female candidate for president. I just, I have great reasons to do it. And completely minimizing Trump's absolute lack of qualifications of any kind in a serious manner. Just looking past that. Look past that

0:30:23 Lydia: David Duke. Yeah mm hmm. Yeah

0:30:54 Thomas: And just saying there's no way, just asserting really without any proof, she hasn't accomplished anything. Well, she has. And there's No Way this system, a fair system, could lead her to be the candidate. Why not? Because she's a woman and not white. That's really all it is.

0:31:11 Lydia: If If you keep going, Tucker is going to have a lot more thoughts about Kamala's competence.

0:31:25 Clip: No, you are not better than us. No, You are not smarter than us, no, you do not deserve what you have, you probably stole it, no you're not gonna bully me into silence anymore, and I can promise you at this point, Nine days out, when Robert F. Kennedy Jr., and Elon Musk, and Tulsi Gabbard, and pretty much every high school senior and college sorority girl in the country has come out, finally said, yeah, I am for Donald Trump, actually, when the entire country has realized there is nothing embarrassing about this, what's embarrassing is to take a perfectly great country and destroy it, as they have, I'm not ashamed, you should be, At that moment, it's gonna be pretty tough for them, 10 days from now, to look in the eye to America, with a straight face, it can be pretty hard to look at us, and say, you know what?, Kamala Harris, she's just, she got 85 million votes, because she's so impressive, as the first Samoan Malaysian, low

0:31:35 Thomas: What? What? What? What?

0:32:32 Clip: IQ, former California prosecutor, ever to be elected president, it was just a groundswell of popular support, And anyone who thinks otherwise is just a freak or a criminal. At this stage of the game, after nine years of listening to their lies and finding every single one of them totally false, no, it's not safe and effective, and no, she's not impressive.

0:32:54 Thomas: Jesus.

0:32:55 Clip: It's very hard for me to believe the rest of us are gonna say, you know what, Joe Scarborough, you're right. You're right, she won fair and square, because she's just so impressive. I don't think so. And to me, that is liberation. It's the freedom to say what's obviously true as a free man and not a slave. And I just want to say, thank you, Donald Trump, for that.

0:33:16 Lydia: Obviously true. She's not Samoan or Malaysian. So can you believe Tucker Carlson's speech? I feel like is a and a horrible way summation of everything. I mean, we got great replacement theory coming into play there. We have the big lie. We have, yeah, like totally misrepresenting the candidate for president for the Democratic Party. Like it's just generally

0:33:33 Thomas: The big lie. We got, yeah. Why would he think it's easy to become a prosecutor in California, the biggest state? Like, wouldn't that be hard? Said, talking about just no accomplishments it's like that that's got to be a competitive thing yeah like how the hell well that too I mean any of that like you don't you don'T think anyone else wants that job it's just easy to get they just see a woman of color and they're like oh well you get it because you wanted it you don't think there's like a ton of competition by the way to say nothing of other people of color it's LIKE there's a lot of people in this state and it would would be hard to get an elite job like that. I imagine you would have to have qualifications.

0:33:56 Lydia: As attorney general. Gotcha. I thought you were talking about San Francisco specifically. Specifically yeah yeah yeah yep yep I mean I I think uh the very beginning with tucker's entrance to the very end it is just you however many minutes that was uh minutes or so no maybe a little bit more eight yeah that was it for him um it was like eight minutes total that he spoke but from the very beginning to the very end um it just feels like like that's the America we're looking at. Like if.

0:34:33 Thomas: It's already over? Jeez, short and sweet. I mean, it is Trumpism. It is MAGA. He's the best distillation of it, for angry, screamy, white victim, wealthy beyond belief, yelling about how everyone else, it's not fair that everyone else has stuff.

0:34:49 Lydia: And looks nuts. Yeah yeah and I do a point of clarification just in case people want to reach out regarding Tucker's family lineage. His stepmother is a Swanson but they had sold Swanson to Campbell soup Company so it is there's that That Campbell.

0:35:10 Thomas: It is a Campbell's soup. Okay, I thought I remembered something. He got money was that was but okay did he end up with money or no yeah

0:35:12 Lydia: Exactly. So I just wanted to clear that up for the audience. Stepmom. But yeah, I mean, she legally adopted Tucker and his brother. So, yes, he is likely, you know, I don't know, technically her her heir, but but theoretically, like he is adopted by her and that is his family lineage now, so he also grew up in La Jolla outside of San Diego, very, very rich area. And his house overlooked the La Jolla Beach and Tennis Club. So, yeah.

0:35:46 Thomas: I'm sure yeah as modest uh five bajillion dollar house I imagine that's

0:35:49 Lydia: Father also owned property in Nevada and Vermont and islands in Maine and Nova Scotia.

0:35:55 Thomas: The thing if his stepmom was that who was his dad a plumber like I'm surer his dad was some sort of little white royalty uh

0:36:01 Lydia: A former Gonzo reporter who became the director of Voice of America, President of the Corporation for Public Broadcasting and U.S. ambassador to the Seychelles.

0:36:12 Thomas: Connected got inherited wealth got you know got a leg in to media you but he deserves it all you don't understand he did because he wore his nice little bow tie so he deserves at all people who don't look like him don't deserve it incredible it

0:36:17 Lydia: Amazing schooling. Mm-hmm. Let's talk about else who's incredible, but not the regular Incredible Hulk. We're going to talk about Hulk Hogan. All Retired wrestler Hulk Hogen, not the Incredible Hulk, joke.

0:36:33 Thomas: Gets better yeah uh wow oh this guy

0:36:41 Lydia: So I just want to highlight one thing here because I have not seen this talked about anywhere else. 31130 is where we're going to go. Talking about Kamala at this point. But like I said, I haven't seen anyone else talk about this particular instance in his his speech.

0:37:01 Clip: Sounds for real, brother. He sound like he has a heart of gold that's all for the USA.

0:37:06 Thomas: He doesn't. Really?

0:37:09 Clip: But when I hear Kamala speak, it sounds, yeah, it sound like a script from Hollywood with a really, really, Bad actress, now,

0:37:13 Thomas: She's black. So what?

0:37:24 Lydia: Yeah. Okay. That's what I want to just focus on. The hocta, right? Have not seen anyone talk about that, surprisingly. I mean, there are so many examples throughout this entire six -hour thing.

0:37:35 Thomas: It's hard to get to

0:37:36 Lydia: It's hard to pick up on those things, but that just like flew under the radar for everybody. And it's disgusting what he's implying there. And I was shocked and I just wanted to that with you all, I guess.

0:37:36 Thomas: It all. Yeah yeah yeah yeah

0:37:47 Lydia: I don't know. So you can suffer with me, but.

0:37:48 Thomas: And again I mean I anytime I think this is important anytime to recognize to step back and recognize how how fucking awful stuff is. And it doesn't, it didn't used to be this way. It doesn't have to be thisway. I was going to say that before. And I'm glad I'm remembering now since when did Republicans just have a bunch of people get on there and say, fuck a bunch in a political rally. Isn't that weird?

0:38:07 Lydia: I know. I know the

0:38:09 Thomas: Like, yeah, mean, I don't care, I so much other than that. It's like a sign of, again, the important thing was never whatever morals they thought they had, or they were trying to espouse because a heartbeat, they will claim that the other side is horrible for using a curse word or whatever. It's all convenience. And again, the main key is the the misogyny, the fascism. That's what matters to be in that camp. So any rules are out the window as long as you are down that message. But to just imply that Kamala Harris is like an actress who, by the way, this is already a sexist trope to

0:38:09 Lydia: Swearing. Yeah. Right.

0:38:47 Thomas: Just make reference to, like, it's written by an actress. Here's the problem with old Hollywood. We know it's a bunch of unqualified women, you favoring their way to the top. That's really, it's not the predatory fucking men like Weinstein.

0:38:57 Lydia: Like Weinstein.

0:39:00 Thomas: Yeah, it's not any of them. It's the it's it's the incompetent actresses who just, you know, and like to imply that the other candidate, the major candidate of the first woman who might be like a second major female candidate, uh, president is, is that like, have you no decency? Like what happened? We, there is no decency anymore. There hasn't been for a while, but I think it's important to try to remember that anytime, like anytime we can, the only way we're getting it back is to remember what it was like when we had it.

0:39:29 Lydia: Oh and not just the Harvey Weinstein, you know kind of Ignoring but like Donald Trump who on tape said when

0:39:38 Thomas: I in terms of film executives, but yeah

0:39:41 Lydia: Yeah, but I mean but from celebrity right like this celebrity position Donald Trump is someone who was you elbows with hollywood folk for a long long time and his whole you know like when you're star they let you do anything um grab him by the pussy right like that something that you republican party has just decided to embrace um then treat then women on the other side of this in this particular way um

0:40:04 Thomas: You know maybe we can play a recording of Terry Bollea here to get the full picture one and uh um note extreme racism let's see here's another recording of this guy oh not if it's hard to make out but it was effing n words uh I'm a racist to a point and uh then someone chimes in well we're all that way because

0:40:45 Lydia: Wow.

0:40:46 Thomas: That's that this is the america that votes for trump let's see there's a little bit much more here wow if we're gonna f with n words let's get a rich one so he's saying he's basically that if his daughter is going to be with a black man it better be someone rich uh this is this is the kind of piece of shit that would get up on the stage for trump so shouldn't really be a mystery where weird it's so weird how it's a whole bunch of economic uh you know dissatisfaction that leads to this and it's not it's definitely not the racism it's definitely not not the racism everybody that's just what the left -wing media wants you to think I

0:41:08 Lydia: And then giggling. Yeah. That context in mind I think the next guest um specifically this clip that I want to play from him um just thought was honestly hilarious. Just the cognitive dissonance in particular with this one.

0:41:48 Thomas: This is someone that caught a lot of people by surprise I didn't I mean I don' t care about this person at all but I had no idea they were this level of trump right I didn' t I never thought about it it's pretty wild though to see and it and the reason it matters is you see people like this with major platforms and followings.

0:42:06 Thomas: And you're like, oh, great. Awesome. They're also a piece of shit who's going to be helping Trump. It's It sucks.

0:42:12 Lydia: So we're going to go to 32216 and we'll talk about it.

0:42:15 Clip: You're in my wheelhouse, buddy, I may not be an expert in politics, but I am an expert about bullying, and bullying is when you seek to harm somebody, you seek, you, seek to intimidate, coerce, cause distress, fear, risk to their well -being, and it can be physical, verbal, relational, or cyber bullying, and it's always wrong, you said it, my friend, it is always wrong when you bully somebody, and

0:42:42 Lydia: Silent in Madison Square Garden, by the way.

0:42:41 Thomas: What? Yeah. What are you talking about, dude?

0:42:51 Clip: That's what's going on, now, let me tell you what the critics are gonna say when they hear me talking about this, they're gonna say, well, now wait a minute, come on, isn't Trump a bully?, and let me you why the answer to that question is no, because to be a bully, there has to be an imbalance of power, And when there's not, it's just called a debate, and he's just better at it than anybody else.

0:43:04 Thomas: Who

0:43:20 Lydia: Donald Trump, no imbalance of power. Yeah like

0:43:20 Thomas: The billionaire ex -president

0:43:24 Clip: It's called debating, it is called arguing. It's just, it may even name -call him, but it's not bullying unless there's an imbalance of power, and whoever he talks to, they've got a microphone, they got on their big -boy pants, they gotta stage, they go everything else, he's just better at it, and the same thing is true, when the Democrats or Harris call him fascist, Hitler, racist, misogynist, or a crook, Is that bullying?, well, not really, it's ugly, but with the First Amendment, which we all want to keep, there's no imbalance of power, so it's not bullying, it is just like what he does, it may not be the best

0:44:00 Thomas: That's the first amendment's okay with bullying so what the fuck you're

0:44:04 Clip: Use of energy, but when you attack civilians, when you attacked a citizen, and you use the power of the internet, you use mob mentality, you incite people to gang up and cause boycotts, then it's beyond ugly, and that's what's happening in this country right now, and, that's not okay, right

0:44:04 Thomas: Talking about yeah

0:44:07 Lydia: Like Donald Trump, like Donald Trump and every single person in that audience because

0:44:17 Thomas: Cause boycotts he

0:44:28 Lydia: Of all of you people. All right, you can stop it there.

0:44:29 Thomas: Sounds so much like Bill Clinton he's like weird bizarre universe Bill Clinton must be from the same arkansas so yeah

0:44:34 Lydia: Yeah. Yeah. So that's yeah, Dr. Phil. Know, he got his doctorate in clinical psychology. That's why the bullying answer sounded like a definition.

0:44:41 Thomas: Let's play a game show of who's the worst psychologist him or Jordan Peterson

0:44:46 Lydia: Oh, God. But his license hasn't been renewed since 2006.

0:44:50 Thomas: Oh so he's out longer out of practice than Jordan Peterson I don't

0:44:54 Lydia: He was licensed out of Texas, but then they were filming Dr. Phil in California. And so then he just opted not to renew it, I guess, in 2006 when that was brought up. But Dr. Phil was also, you know, a big part of when you look at the troubled teen industry. I know that's not the focus of this episode in particular, the series at all. But he's a very problematic person, too, and contributed to a lot of people suffering a lot when they were young. Um that includes uh Peskowitz Regoli uh was the cash me outside how about that girl back in 2016 and she's you know since become really outspoken regarding the troubled teen industry because Dr. Phil presented her parents with you here's something that seemed like a recommendation and it ended up being a really really terrible you know like wilderness kind of situation yeah like wilderness survivalist like situations where they that's one portion of the troubled teen industry that they do. Was incredibly impacted by that. And, you out on multiple documentaries kind of talking about her experience and the impact that going on Dr. Phil had on her life, how negative it was because of her trusting him, and then sending her to a place that really harmed her significantly.

0:45:40 Thomas: What wilderness situation oh yeah yeah yikes

0:46:08 Lydia: So he is not an innocent person. And he also doesn't understand the words that are coming out of his mouth, like when he's talking about bullies and somehow he's able to say that Donald Trump isn't.

0:46:07 Thomas: He's It's a kachillionaire. Yeah. Yeah.

0:46:18 Lydia: It's just, yeah, the dissonance in that clip in particular, I just thought was really remarkable. Couple. Right. So now we're actually going to skip the next person, which might be a surprise to folks. J.D. Vance. We're skipping him.

0:46:31 Thomas: Skipping J.D. Vance.

0:46:32 Lydia: It was a snooze fest. It Was Ten Minutes of Nothing. It was so incredibly boring.

0:46:39 Thomas: Nothing, like, pathetic that we can point to?

0:46:42 Lydia: No, it was just it was bland. It was vanilla the entire time. I just wrote none worth playing. There was nothing funny. There was nothing like, catching, like, there was nothing scary or like nothing. It was just so white bread, boring. We're not even going to talk about it. Next couple speakers were the kids, right?

0:46:57 Thomas: Okay. How Oh, God.

0:47:02 Lydia: Ivanka. Ivanka is not there, by the way.

0:47:04 Thomas: Interesting.

0:47:05 Lydia: I won't say she's not there. I don't know if she's actually in Madison Square Garden, but she did not elect to go and speak. But Eric Trump and Laura Trump came up together and we'll clue in on just one of their clips to get us out.

0:47:16 Thomas: Is Laura Trump a full Trump? Who's... Where's she from?

0:47:19 Lydia: She is Eric Trump's wife.

0:47:21 Thomas: Okay, I thought she was the sister for a sec. Who's the other one? Tiffany. And she doesn't get to talk, right?

0:47:24 Lydia: Tiffany. Yeah, yeah, Tiffany, she doesn't talk. Yeah so and actually speaking of that so Eric Trump and laura trump went up together to do their speech don jr went up by himself and I was like where's kimberly and and I Was like is she not there

0:47:38 Thomas: Is she coming up after?

0:47:40 Lydia: No she never appears on stage but she was there and I think if folks remember her speech at the rnc um how badly she bombed she was at the event but she didn't speak and I'm pretty sure it's because the rc performance was so terrible.

0:47:55 Thomas: I mean, just her face already is so tough to look at.

0:47:59 Lydia: Yeah, it's really bad. But we're going to hear Eric Trump and Laura Trump go out on on a great little moment. They have three forty nine oh five.

0:48:09 Thomas: Look at these lovebirds a little

0:48:11 Clip: This isn't politics, this is in politics, This is a family, it's hard, but we love you too, we love, you too., this

0:48:18 Thomas: He gonna cry he

0:48:24 Lydia: And then he awkwardly claps.

0:48:26 Thomas: Is so bad that

0:48:28 Clip: Is so much more than a political movement, this, is the greatest family in the world, we are fighting for a country, we, love, We are fighting for the American flag, we are fighting the Constitution, we're fighting for our liberty, and as a family, we've been out there every single day over the last 10 years, they've tried everything they could to destroy my father, to destroy us, dirty dossiers, Russian hoaxes, they tried to impeach him twice, they went after his Supreme Court nominees, They threw him off of Facebook. They threw them off of Twitter. They throw him off Instagram. They tried to take away his First Amendment rights. Guys, they tried absolutely everything. They weaponized every DA and every AG in this country to try and take down my father.

0:49:03 Thomas: Did impeach him wow every what geez you got a lot

0:49:26 Clip: Here in New York, they did exactly that. Alvin Bragg, Letitia James, they try to destroy his life. They try to take him off the ballot in Colorado. They tried to take him off the ballot in Maine, they sub-, tried to subdue the vote of literally hundreds of millions of Americans who absolutely adore the guy, guys, it's been political lawfare every single day, and then somebody tried to kill him, and despite that, every single time, he stands up and he says, fight, fight , fight , and

0:49:26 Thomas: More cases coming up I guess yeah

0:49:33 Lydia: Got to say the names, get the booze, and Laura Trump waving.

0:49:37 Thomas: No it's only three

0:50:09 Clip: How do you think it feels for them as we're back at Madison Square Garden, the greatest arena anywhere in the world?

0:50:21 Clip: Guys, I saw the Rangers play here and win the cup in 94, every Knicks game, every concert, the greatest arena anywhere in the world, and you better believe the entire party who has failed at taking down Donald Trump, an entire party, who has, failed at, taking down his family, they're sitting there on those cameras right now, watching all of us, watching, all of you, almost 200 ,000 people tried to get into this event tonight,

0:50:28 Thomas: Spoiled little are we

0:50:30 Lydia: I know, brag much.

0:50:56 Thomas: Wow that means they're pretty dumb like Like, why would you keep trying after that? Well over capacity.

0:51:06 Lydia: And raising their fists, pumping at the crowd, clapping at the cloud.

0:51:18 Lydia: He's just clapping. All right, we can stop.

0:51:22 Lydia: Yeah. So one of the things that that I think is so funny is like this focus on his family, the greatest family in the world. Like we're you know, we're going to get this family elected. That feels a little not so much a democracy. Democracy like that feels like the setup to something else um you know this this kind of like I focus on the greatest blank all right like the greatest family in the world the greatest uh arena blah blah blah lara trump later on says when they she does but I we don't need to hear her her speech she is the rnc co -chair so she does have um kind of a prominent role in the party as a whole. One of the quotes that she says that I wrote down that I just thought I'd share is, again, focusing on the greatest. When they take a mugshot of you, the greatest mugshot in the history of the world. It's positive.

0:51:50 Thomas: Their bullshit salesmanship. She speaks. Okay. Wow. When they take it, what is the rest of that?

0:52:18 Lydia: So, yeah. She's just kind of, you know, talking about, like, these things done to try and discredit Donald Trump. And they take

0:52:24 Thomas: They took his mug shot. No, that's part of the process.

0:52:27 Lydia: The mugshot. And she's like, I don't know. I don't know. Of the world. Yeah. So with that, we can kind of like prep because Donald Trump is he's coming up though.

0:52:36 Thomas: Take a break for a sec. Oh,

0:52:39 Lydia: He's coming out fast. Yeah, so we'll

0:52:40 Thomas: Wait, we still have some stars to see, though, right?

0:52:43 Lydia: Have a couple big stars to focus on and then we'll close it all out with the former guy.

0:52:45 Thomas: Man. Man. Oh boy. And then we can put this all behind us, everybody. We can just, well, or not, I don't know. Maybe, I dunno if when you're hearing this, you know, the election, we don't, don't spoil it for us. We don't actually do spoil it. If you can try and travel, spoil it for me right now.

0:52:53 Lydia: Dear God, I hope this is behind us. Oh my God, I know.

0:53:03 Thomas: We don'T know what's happening, but, um, either way, either this is hilarious or really grim and we need to know about it. So, uh, to the next part, the final part of, uh, mine and Lydia's, mainly Lydia's, misery. And thanks so much for listening, everyone. Please support the show. patreon.com/wherethereswoke means a ton to us and pays the medical bills here this is seriously horrible. See you for the final part. Hate terrorists yeah

0:53:47 Clip: I mean, what? That's