The Right's Obsession With Taking Down Tim Walz (feat. Heath Enwright)

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0:00:03 Clip: What's so scary about the woke mob, how often you just don't see them coming.

0:00:11 Clip: Anywhere you see diversity, equity, and inclusion, you see Marxism, and you see woke principles being pushed.

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0:00:42 Thomas: And welcome, everyone, to Where There's Woke Bonus with Heath Enright. I can't hide my excitement anymore. Heath, thanks so much for coming on the show. How are you doing today?

0:00:45 Lydia: And

0:00:47 Heath: Mwah! I'm doing an excellent, very glad to be here.

0:00:55 Thomas: And also, a real third wheel has invited herself on as well. Well, sorry about this, Heath, but the

0:00:55 Lydia: I'm here, too. It's all right. I got I got bumped down on the list.

0:01:03 Thomas: Old ball and chain is here.

0:01:05 Heath: Hi, Lydia.

0:01:07 Thomas: No, Lydia is, of course, not only very, very welcome. She is also the source of the episode. So we do need her today.

0:01:15 Lydia: You guys do need me. I'm pretty important.

0:01:19 Thomas: Yeah. And so it's like it's like we're doing a group project in school and we're a couple. But then we have the one smart kid with us that we're like, I wish she would leave so we could, you know, yeah and

0:01:20 Heath: Working the camera.

0:01:29 Lydia: You guys made out the entire time I was working on the PowerPoint slides at the coffee shop.

0:01:32 Thomas: Then we realized we need her I'm like no you're the you're awesome you're all we do no we'll not make out for one minute hell

0:01:37 Heath: You helped too. Yeah. You totally helped.

0:01:40 Lydia: And then I'm too nice to tell the teacher. And so you guys get A's anyway. Anyway, it was.

0:01:44 Thomas: Yeah baby well time for us to piggyback on someone else's hard work and uh yeah I will at least credit that this was my idea that I made lydia do and in our society that means I get 100% of the credit for

0:01:53 Lydia: Yeah, you did.

0:01:55 Heath: And Lydia 70. I

0:02:04 Lydia: All right. So we're going to talk about Tim Walz. And before we get into how insane the right has gotten about Tim walls, some people are calling it walz derangement syndrome. I wanted to get just like your thoughts about what you guys think about Tim Walz. I know what you think, Thomas, but I I would love to hear.

0:02:16 Thomas: Go ahead mr heath yeah I

0:02:21 Heath: I think he's delightful. He's like the most delightful person. He is perfect. He everybody's thrown around, if they know the word anyway, is avuncular. And he's he's that he's just like the most wholesome, nice guy.

0:02:37 Thomas: Know what that means but like tell everybody else like what if you could define that word just for yeah I'll

0:02:42 Heath: I think so. Actually, I don't have like the definition in my head, but I'm vaguely aware that it means like wholesome uncle character. I think it's just a coincidence that uncle is in there. Ithink it starts with an A, not a but like it's It's just, yeah, it's that wholesome Midwestern guy character. The, like, good dad energy character.

0:02:45 Thomas: Thank god I don't know what that means well

0:03:02 Lydia: Totally good dad energy. I agree. What about you, Thomas?

0:03:06 Thomas: First off I just realized there's a sound bite I actually did want to get for whenever heath is on the show uh I should have gotten it yeah because Because, no, it's great.

0:03:15 Lydia: Is it workplace appropriate?

0:03:20 Thomas: It's, you what I'm going to play when you come on.

0:03:20 Heath: Which workplace, Lydia?

0:03:26 Thomas: There we go, uh -uh, Mr. Heath. I'm just going to get that little, that little one, uh, uh Mr. Heath.

0:03:27 Heath: It is. The song. Yeah.

0:03:29 Lydia: Mr. Heath.

0:03:33 Thomas: And that will be your new intro for whenever you come, come on the show.

0:03:37 Lydia: I don't have an intro song.

0:03:39 Thomas: Nah. Well, have the Beatles write a song that involves your name and then, yeah, pull your weight around here. Inspire a Beatle back in time.

0:03:39 Heath: It's you don't have an interest on it yet? Inspire a beetle.

0:03:52 Lydia: I'm J.D.

0:03:53 Thomas: Yeah. So Tim Walls, I love it because it fucking, I, sorry, I Heath, I know you do more about this probably than I have because I haven't really talked too much about it. But how could their vice presidential candidate be so bad at this? Like how, how, as of

0:04:12 Lydia: Vance yeah yeah

0:04:15 Heath: Is he still the candidate? It they haven't dropped that guy yet

0:04:18 Thomas: Now, sorry, as a time of recording, how could the person they apparently, the fucking lump of nothing they have on the ticket, J.D. Vance, be so good? How can you be so fucking bad at it?

0:04:29 Heath: It's amazing he's the opposite of Tim Waltz he's the like exact opposite

0:04:33 Thomas: That's what I was going to say.

0:04:35 Heath: He he doesn't know how donuts work like it's the opposite it's just like you wouldn't have known that those were opposites but like oh not knowing how donuts worked that is the opposite Tim Walsh yeah I

0:04:40 Thomas: Just whatever makes sense yeah I bring it up because that that also that Tim Waltz is the best and because everything about the right is dour and horrible and fear-based and whatever and we've got this wonderful joyful man in Tim Woltz who sure he's not perfect like uh any human is not perfect but he's a damn good candidate from what I've seen and so they're in such a desperate position that's what the point I want to make is that they it's not like Like, and

0:05:08 Heath: Would like to say that he is perfect I know you were doing a disclaimer there That

0:05:10 Lydia: He's not perfect because he did get arrested for drunk driving decades ago and then stopped drinking because I know it does

0:05:17 Heath: Humanizes him. It's perfect.

0:05:14 Thomas: That's true. That is, that does suck. But yeah. Which is more perfect? Is it to always have been perfect or to have a very valuable life lesson have been taught to you that changed you to be better? That, like, you know, maybe he is more imperfect now than he would have been.

0:05:25 Lydia: Yeah made you a better member of society yeah

0:05:26 Heath: Great Maybe the idea of a perfect God is impossible.

0:05:34 Thomas: And so that's, like that I think is at the heart of this nonsense is they are so fucking desperate. And I love it so fucking much. It's the best.

0:05:43 Lydia: Um would like you to hear what Jesse Waters thinks about Tim Walz we're just gonna start there we're gonna jump into the deep end

0:05:50 Thomas: It's always, that's always a good place to start. So

0:05:53 Clip: Protecting and supporting access to gender-affirming health care is essential to being a welcoming and supportive state to the community, Walz signed a bill that removes a child from their parents' home if the parents don't want to castrate them, he's sick, Walz forced schools to stock tampons in boys' bathrooms, tampons and fourth -grade boys' WHAT A FREAK. WHAT DO BOYS NEED TAMPONS FOR? THIS GUY IS NOT MINNESOTA NICE. HE'S MINNESTO NUTS. MINNESSOTA LOCKDOWNS WERE WORSE THAN CALIFORNIA'S.

0:06:05 Heath: I think he's lying. What?

0:06:20 Thomas: So good. That's not, that doesn't, that

0:06:26 Heath: What?

0:06:28 Clip: NOT ONLY DID HE KEEP SCHOOLS AND CHURCHES LOCKED DOWN BUT HE SET UP A HOTLINE SO YOUR NEIGHBORS COULD SNITCH ON YOU FOR LEAVING YOUR HOUSE WITHOUT A MASK.

0:06:28 Thomas: Doesn't work.

0:06:29 Heath: He tried to turn a phrase and he hurt himself.

0:06:35 Thomas: Wow. Love this so much. Look, I um, like to fact check. On this show. I'm just, let's just isolate this claim so we can do, we can really get our hands dirty and research if this claim is true.

0:06:46 Heath: Gonna have to take this like one word at a time.

0:06:46 Clip: SIGNED A BILL THAT REMOVES A CHILD FROM THEIR PARENT'S HOME if the parents don't want to castrate them? Governor

0:06:53 Heath: What interesting.

0:06:54 Thomas: Walz signed a bill that removes a child from a parent's home if the parents don't want to castrate them.

0:07:00 Lydia: Some have no idea where he's getting that. It is insane. I mean, Walz has been a proponent of transgender rights and gender-affirming care.

0:07:12 Thomas: Well, Well, there you go. That's the same thing.

0:07:14 Lydia: You know, castration for everybody.

0:07:16 Heath: He a big fan of forced forced gender-affirming care, but not, and gender not affirming, like you have to do it? Okay.

0:07:17 Thomas: Castration. Hold on.

0:07:21 Lydia: I don't think so. You don't have to do it. Correct.

0:07:24 Thomas: Wait, do do transgender women only cut cut off the balls. Sorry.

0:07:30 Thomas: I don't want to speak out of turn, but I thought castration was just the balls

0:07:34 Heath: Jesse Waters does not really know the answer to your question.

0:07:37 Thomas: Okay. I, uh, I mean, I, again, I, we have so many trans listeners and I would mean this with all due respect do trans women just cut off the balls? I don't think he's medically accurate. There's what I'm saying. I think maybe he might be ignorant about the medical process or I am one of the two. I don't know yeah point is it has nothing to do with castration like that's not that's not even it's nothing it's so far afield of anything that ever could possibly be true like

0:08:04 Heath: I would imagine this conversation didn't come up on the floor of the Minnesota whatever when this became a law. That's just my guess.

0:08:11 Lydia: So this wants to make the tampon story sound crazier than it is, right? They're talking all about that it's going to be put into boys' bathrooms, right? They're trying to link this tampon thing to transgender rights and kind of like link it with that tactic that the right is doing everywhere. It's that opportunity that they see. But what really happened was in the 2023 education bill for Minnesota, a variety of things were included regarding additional funding for public schools, how they were going to change their distribution formula for based on like enrollment, a Variety of different things like that. And one item in there was that there would be free tampons and pads provided to schools to put in bathrooms.

0:09:01 Heath: Good. Good!

0:09:01 Lydia: They didn't say in girls' bathrooms. They said in student restrooms.

0:09:07 Thomas: God these fucking commies I'm

0:09:09 Lydia: So what has really kind happening in the school? So The New York Times actually, you out to a bunch of public schools in Minnesota after the right went nuts about. Yeah, they did. They did.

0:09:19 Thomas: Sorry really look I'm so I'm sorry I'm gonna stop you right there you're if you have a sister the bathroom at your home will probably contain not only tampons or pads but but probably other things that are just usually for girls that So, and yeah, no, I guess every boy with us, that's why every boy with a sister is trans, I think.

0:09:36 Heath: There any dire consequences to that that you're aware of? Are worried that cis boys might start menstruating if they give them the products?

0:09:48 Thomas: Like, well, it's so convenient, I'd you be a fool not to menstruate in this economy.

0:09:50 Lydia: Honestly, like like where it has gone, I wouldn't be surprised. Like, yeah, libs of TikTok. They're probably thinking craziness like that. The only pushback that occurred when they were discussing the education bill in the legislature for Minnesota was some of the lawmakers. And I don't know if it was just strictly Republicans that brought this up, but they said, you know, like young boys tend to be really dumb and they might, you this and use them for like, I don't know, soak them up with water and throw them on the ceiling and like just kind of waste

0:10:22 Heath: Of course, that's what we would do.

0:10:23 Lydia: A bunch of money.

0:10:24 Thomas: And after all, we know who's in charge of schools is mindless automatons that we have to worry about there's people in charge of this like you don't think they'll fucking figure it out this that's one of the things that bothers me the most about the right in whole thing is they always think that everyone was born one minute ago and like well they're gonna like throw them in the trap yeah okay the school fucking figure that out they'll figure it they have they think this is their first day of school that they're just like they've never dealt with this they've dealt with boys of all kinds being troublemakers for centuries

0:11:00 Heath: Now schools are going to have to figure out how to discipline children for doing stupid shit. It's a slippery slope. I don't know what.

0:11:08 Lydia: Here's the thing, too. Many were already doing this. They were already finding a way to fund this locally. And over half of U.S. states do this, where they provide free tampons and pads for students at school. And in Minnesota schools in particular, what the New York Times found was of the schools that were already doing this, they tended to be in the girls' bathrooms, gender neutral bathrooms, and also at the nurse's office. They hadn't had any in the boy bathrooms. And also, who cares?

0:11:36 Thomas: I mean and also

0:11:39 Heath: OK, yeah, it doesn't matter.

0:11:39 Thomas: Who cares but yeah it is actually true that like at that young age there really are not that many trans uh boys like there's not that much of a difference between the two and the point the only point I'm is like you could probably do it on a case -by -case basis like you know like whatever like I'm sure hey if you want to accommodate hey our point on the january little john episodes

0:11:58 Lydia: I was going to say it's a January little, John, when we're talking about that stats.

0:12:00 Thomas: You hopefully the school could uh recognize if someone needs certain accommodations and make it work I really don't think you would need to stock every single boy's bathroom in the state with tampons for that you know I don't I mean I don't care if you do but But like, yeah, like it's not it's not a huge worry if you do. But also, I highly doubt you would even need to. And it sounds like the reality is you didn't really need to write for

0:12:15 Lydia: And who cares? Yeah. Yeah.

0:12:16 Heath: Or you do. It doesn't mater.

0:12:27 Lydia: No. And you didn't really need to. And I think a lot of teachers keep these things on hand, too, because teachers are, you know, they end up buying a bunch of things for kids might that not have access to them. And, you frankly, I've been in positions at school where my period started unexpectedly and you end up leaking and stain your pants and then you have to figure out a way to cover it for the rest of the day because you don't have access And like when I was a kid, I was very embarrassed to ask for borrowing anything if I could have done it in like a subtle way. You it's just automatically available in the bathroom. I could've prevented a lot of embarrassment on the other end when I had just blood on my jeans.

0:13:10 Heath: Like a no brainer to to have these in bathrooms. Why do so more generally why do we even need any gendered bathrooms ever anywhere for anything yeah

0:13:12 Lydia: I know I know the best bathrooms I've ever been well but here's the thing I don't know that you do single stalls

0:13:23 Thomas: Kids. I do think we need gendered bathrooms for kids or we build them. So the stalls are actually real. Yeah, well, that's the problem with Europeans.

0:13:30 Heath: That's what I'm saying yeah

0:13:31 Thomas: Listen, and they're like, you fascists and you're it's like and then they try an American bathroom and they'll like, dear God.

0:13:30 Lydia: We have see -through stall doors

0:13:38 Thomas: Yeah, it's like, OK, never mind.

0:13:38 Lydia: They're they're literally see -though it's

0:13:41 Thomas: Yeah. Yeah, it is that.

0:13:42 Lydia: Very strange

0:13:41 Heath: It's weird just get a door that closes we're good

0:13:45 Thomas: If you get a door that closes, it's a lot better.

0:13:46 Lydia: The way down to the ground please it's not that hard um But meanwhile, I just wanted to highlight this really fast. You know, Tampon Tim, like, that's really dumb. And, like – I don't know. That's an insult?

0:13:57 Thomas: I would own tampon, Tim.

0:13:58 Lydia: I don' t know.

0:13:59 Thomas: I know. Like sweet tampon Thomas. All

0:14:01 Lydia: Like, it's kind of nice. It's like, okay, I know who to ask for. I need a tampon, I'm going to go to Tim Walls now.

0:14:04 Thomas: For sure. I, if I, that became my nickname, I would keep a, uh, whatever they come in of tampons.

0:14:10 Lydia: It's, like Mary Poppins. Yeah.

0:14:13 Thomas: I would keep a whatever storage unit of tampons, a bag, box, yeah,

0:14:17 Heath: Lean in did brat brat summer tampon Tim fall let's do it

0:14:19 Lydia: It depends, actually, hun. Brad Summer, Timpon Tim Fall. I like it.

0:14:23 Thomas: A sleeve of tampon? I'm trying to, I don't know what they come in. I'm sorry, I'm realizing.

0:14:25 Lydia: Well, so it

0:14:26 Heath: In my head it's like a sausage thing

0:14:31 Thomas: No, it depends on a different thing. Come on, hun.

0:14:33 Lydia: My gosh. I mean, you can buy a canister of them.

0:14:37 Thomas: A canister?

0:14:38 Lydia: You can also buy bags. You can buy boxes. That's what I'm saying. It depends on the company.

0:14:39 Thomas: Now that's awesome. Does it, does it pop like the tennis, the fresh tennis balls?

0:14:43 Heath: I was picked oh my my God, I was picturing the exact same thing.

0:14:45 Thomas: That's why we love each other so much I would want

0:14:48 Heath: And then I was picturing a t -shirt gun.

0:14:49 Lydia: It's not as narrow as It'S like a wider canister.

0:14:52 Thomas: A wider oh so you can fit more yeah okay but if I were tampon thomas if that was my I would own it and I would always have a canister that would make a nice satisfying popping sound well

0:14:55 Lydia: Of course. Of course. Yeah. Though, in Florida, Ron DeSantis just signed legislation overhauling their sex ed program, so now they have to promote abstinence, and they can't use words like fluids. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

0:15:16 Heath: What? The

0:15:17 Thomas: As it gets you so horny like god if I hear fluids boy physics is gonna be tough I guess so

0:15:20 Heath: Word fluid is banned? That's going to be really just, you know, you know what type of dynamics.

0:15:27 Thomas: If you had a liter of the fuck uh

0:15:29 Heath: You know, the dynamics.

0:15:30 Thomas: Man of, can I say water? I guess I can say water. It'll always be water now. There's no other, every physics problem has to have water or another identifiable thing, substance.

0:15:42 Heath: Okay, I will say there is nothing more delightful and on the nose than republicans canceling a word for wetness in sex ed like that's just so perfect don't

0:15:56 Lydia: And a lot of the sex ed teachers in Florida have, you know, spoken to the media and saying it's going to be really challenging to talk about HIV because a lot of, you now, STIs, in particular HIV, is transmitted through bodily

0:16:11 Heath: Say it what

0:16:11 Thomas: You're arrested. You're under arrest.

0:16:12 Lydia: I am. Depressing, though, some of the other words that are being removed from lesson plans in Florida include include abuse, consent, and domestic violence. So,

0:16:23 Thomas: Dear God. What is domestic violence? What a tell that is. I'm sorry, what?

0:16:28 Lydia: It's scary.

0:16:30 Thomas: I know we're all inert, if that's the word. We're all just kind of like we've heard so much. Why domestic violence?

0:16:23 Heath: They terrifying what

0:16:37 Lydia: I don't know. I don't know. It's very strange and uncomfortable, and I prefer Tamp on Tim.

0:16:44 Thomas: What a tell that is.

0:16:45 Heath: Is this like along the lines of them canceling talking about you know racism in american history because it's fucking them and the ancestors the people who vote for them so they they also don't want talk of domestic violence like it's yeah it's so telling

0:17:01 Lydia: All I can think is that they' re like, protect the kids, right? Kids, that' s, you know, that's a tough thing for kids to hear about. They, like, equate it to a rated R movie or something that, that like the kids are not able to understand. And it's, yeah, no, it's not.

0:17:12 Thomas: Yeah, but is murder banned? Yeah,

0:17:16 Heath: We talk about things that are bad sometimes I

0:17:19 Thomas: Know. I don't think it's too crazy to read into this and be like, so you don't want to talk consent. You don't wanna talk, you yadda, yadda. Does that mean you want them to not know that it's domestic abuse if you're ever forced to have sex in your marriage? You know like I don't know how else to read this like why would you ban talk of domestic abuse I you could be all for abstinence and be like yeah but also don't that we should teach them about domestic abuse because that's a problem like what what a tell yeah

0:17:33 Lydia: Yeah. I know. It's very concerning.

0:17:35 Heath: Imagine they do want that yeah

0:17:46 Lydia: Yeah. Yeah, I know, I know. It's pretty awful. Let's get to something fun, though. I mean, tampon Tim is pretty fun.

0:17:55 Thomas: Tampon tim is pretty fun I love tampon tam I'm voting for tampon time I love these dorks too because like they're so they're so afraid of being cool or useful to women you you just tell them like that's wouldn't mind being tampon thomas I'll you know I'd give maybe I'll be helpful to a woman someday they'd be like fucking it's like yeah don't you realize that like it's actually really straight to want to be like at fondly by women you know like I would like a woman to be like wow what a nice person yeah huh I

0:18:22 Lydia: You might lead to more partners.

0:18:25 Heath: This is like guys is it gay to have sex with a woman it's like almost there

0:18:29 Thomas: Know it really is that's what's good yeah is it gay to like have a woman be happy with you yes in their mind it is actually literally yes okay

0:18:31 Lydia: Very So crazy. So I don't know if you guys heard about this, but Tim Walz got really creative, apparently, according to the right, and the Minnesota flag was impacted.

0:18:48 Thomas: I did hear about this a little bit but

0:18:51 Clip: Governor WalZ is really out there on everything. Don't forget, he tried to redesign the Minnesota state flag to look like the Somali national flag. He's just, you just can't get further out there in America. He thinks that socialism is a good neighbor policy.

0:19:01 Heath: It's a fucking rectangle And it's fabric nonsense.

0:19:02 Thomas: It's got like red and white and stuff probably or it's gotta be yeah

0:19:09 Clip: That's what he kind of likened it to. This is the kind of guy where you would say, if there's anybody in America that's even further to the left than Kamala Harris that might temper her appearance just a little bit, it's Tim Walz. And Governor Walz is - And

0:19:09 Thomas: I don't know I love it so much these two people that are not particularly super far left like yeah I I love Love it. No They chill. They have no fucking chill as Republicans. They have to go to the full whatever every fucking time.

0:19:27 Lydia: Not far left. Yeah.

0:19:37 Thomas: What are the odds? The only one more left than this extreme cheap candidate is the other person we have to talk about. What're the odds.

0:19:43 Lydia: So what happened here is Yes, of course.

0:19:47 Thomas: Let me finish it for you. What happened here is Tim Waltz undercover Somali agent Manchurian candidate style lived his whole life in order to assume that to the peaks of Minnesota soda, uh, politics in order to change the flag to look like Somalia. Was that what he said?

0:19:55 Lydia: Oh, just you wait. Yes. Yeah.

0:20:08 Thomas: Yeah. And then he was like, my mission is complete. And he took off a mask and, and jumped went, on a boat or something. I don't.

0:20:16 Heath: And then Minnesota became socialist, just like Somalia. I know they had like a republic that was socialist for a stretch there, but I don't think it is anymore.

0:20:24 Lydia: My God. Yeah, I don't think so either. So essentially what happened was the flag for Minnesota was considered to be pretty offensive to indigenous folks. And so the legislature decided that they wanted a commission and established that through law to evaluate a flag redesign. Tim Walz signed the law. That's where his involvement ends.

0:20:50 Thomas: So we're in a parks and rec. I know it's one of, one of the three of our favorite shows. We're in in a Parks and Rec mural situation here, which is one of the best on recurring jokes where they go up to a mural. It's just horribly racist thing. They're like, yeah. Oh, boy. Every single time it's we had one of those situations. And because on the left are, I think, always maybe attempting, at least if not perfecting, attempting to try to be less shitty, they're like hey, let's not do that. How nice. What a nice thing. Who could possibly complain about this?

0:20:52 Heath: Stupid. I love that show.

0:20:58 Lydia: So good. And formed commission, and they had public submit redesigns for that commission. They had over 2 ,000 submissions, and then the commission group sat down and evaluated them and then picked one. And the winner actually ended up doing some media.

0:21:30 Thomas: All from Somalia. Look at me I'm the flag now so glad Heath could make it to this recording I would have to explain that to Lydia for 10 minutes only because you don't do movie quotes I'm not saying you don't yeah you just don'T tend to do movie quotes that's

0:21:50 Heath: Does happen off of Somalia, nice. So topical.

0:21:59 Lydia: Know, I know. But you did talk about it on Dads recently. So. The winner actually endedup doing some interviews with media and explained how he came up with his concept, because people were like, does it have to do with Somalia.

0:22:12 Thomas: Oh well I started with wanting there to be a Somali takeover of the country and then I went from there just took artistic liberty after that

0:22:18 Lydia: So the that he put together, he spent a lot of time researching it. He said his goal was to try to represent everyone, but apparently not Somalians. But the new flag has a white eight point star and that is supposed to represent the North Star, which is the state's motto for Minnesota. And

0:22:37 Thomas: Sorry

0:22:37 Heath: Used to be their hockey team. I

0:22:38 Lydia: Yeah, and then it is on a dark blue blue background representing the night sky in the shape of the state. And then there's a bright blue field on the right representing the state's 11 ,000 lakes and 6 ,000 rivers and streams.

0:22:54 Thomas: If I missed it what's the part that's like somalia or is there that

0:22:58 Heath: Was trying to figure it out.

0:22:59 Lydia: What I understand, the Somali flag also has a white multi -point star On a blue background.

0:23:00 Thomas: Case closed

0:23:09 Heath: Come on. Seriously?

0:23:11 Lydia: Yeah, yeah.

0:23:13 Heath: Colors and stars. Is there a problem with the flags being similar?

0:23:16 Thomas: And yeah and there's only a couple flags in the world that would ever have colors and stars

0:23:21 Lydia: And because they put a lot of work into like selecting a new flag again, it wasn't like Tim Wall sat down with a pen and paper and sketch something out and said, go make this. Like they literally had minnesotans

0:23:33 Thomas: They asked the artist how'd you come up with it well one night tim walsh came with a knife and said how you fucking bastard you will make this a somali flag so

0:23:42 Lydia: Um there's an entire like report that the commission put together about why they selected what they selected what it looks like and what the pieces represent so yeah it's not the somali flag I

0:23:52 Thomas: Much I mean I'm sure they they were going to do that anyway but I just think the effort like you mentioned earlier oh the new york times contacted every bathroom in the fucking state of what I'm just like what the effort that gets put into following up on the stupidest people in our country's theories

0:23:55 Lydia: Know they

0:24:08 Heath: You have to check on it. Existence is like a gish gallop of stupid constantly. And New York Times reporters have to be like, hello, school.

0:24:17 Thomas: They don't have to heath

0:24:17 Heath: Did you do something absurd?

0:24:18 Thomas: They don'T have to I'm

0:24:18 Lydia: Don't have to they could just call it out

0:24:20 Heath: Did

0:24:19 Thomas: So fucking done with the new york Times

0:24:21 Heath: You put cat litter boxes is actually in the. No, we didn't. What are you talking about?

0:24:26 Lydia: Yeah.

0:24:26 Heath: We've gotten so many calls about this.

0:24:27 Thomas: Yeah I it's an now, like, in or 20 something, 2015 to say the least, they should have been like, oh, we're not going to follow up on that. That's fucking stupid. Hey, uh, we'RE NOT GOING TO WASTE INK OR TIME OR RESOURCES, UH, INTO WHATEVER TRUMP JUST SAID. Cause we just know it's fucking stupid. We're not doing that. We'RE ADULTS.

0:24:39 Heath: That'd be great. Yeah.

0:24:48 Thomas: And something to that effect. That'S a little more journalistic. Um, but nope, nope. Now the now what we do is we will leave no stone unturned in trying to track down the cat litter fucking thing that doesn't exist.

0:24:58 Heath: Yeah, it's tricky.

0:25:00 Thomas: Unbelievable.

0:25:00 Heath: Like, I agree for sure with what you just said. It's tricky, though, when it gets into like a debate about whatever. And then the insane side, invariably Republicans, they have this ridiculous rabbit hole and it's got all these components. And if you want to win the debate with anybody listening, you kind of have to jump into the rabbit hole somewhat but it's tricky to decide when and where and maybe a little bit but definitely not stuff like this so stupid yeah

0:25:20 Thomas: Classic challenge. Yeah, well, here's another. I guess related to this, I've been meaning to say this for a while or maybe I already did on something. There's a journalistic practice that I understand it, but it also very, very much feeds into this, which is they can't say there are no fuckers. In litter boxes for the kids cat who are pretending to be cats they can't say that because for all they know there could be what they have to say is we found no evidence that they were littered by and they do that every time and it makes it so much worse like the difference between hey I think the moon is made out of cheese and then neil degrasse tyson or something being like no you idiot that's the correct response but the journal they think it's so fucking smart and journalistic to be like well we have not found evidence that the moon is made out to and the normal idiot reader is like oh okay well they just haven't found the evidence yet it's probably could be there they just look look a little harder yeah like you think of a murder case well we haven't found found evidence tying this person to the to the murder you're like well okay well there's still searching that you know like that doesn't have the same effect of no that guy wasn't even born yet or whatever you

0:26:06 Heath: Suspect yeah right

0:26:34 Thomas: Know know like that's yeah it's so frustrating because that is like technically the journalistic thing you're supposed to do yeah

0:26:34 Heath: Yeah you are supposed to do that

0:26:40 Thomas: And and it's unfortunate because I think it really does weaken the case against a lot of these lies yeah

0:26:46 Heath: Right the perfect response sometimes and now more and more often is just like Like, you dropkick or something crazy that's just like, nope, wrong. Yeah. Okay, just getting back to the flag thing. Who the victims here that the Republicans are worried about? Like, the of the creators of the original Minnesota flag are like, fuck you, my great -great -granddaddy put fucking the really offensive Cleveland baseball former team mascot on. Like, what are they saying? Who is this about

0:27:00 Thomas: Other countries yeah I think the victim as a communist woke lefty myself I'm sad we didn't make it venezuela's flag. So I think Venezuela is really the victim here. Why did we choose Somalia? That's a weird thing.

0:27:25 Lydia: I know. I think because it's the one that looks closest to the Minnesota flag. So then they have to start talking about Somalia in ways that don't make sense either.

0:27:37 Thomas: Yeah, I know. That's the joke. I don't. The fact that they can just do this thing, the fact that they can just do this thing, like it's a 9-11 fucking conspiracy. They can just say, well, he's so leftist. How leftist is he? That he made the flag like the Somalian flag. Flag. But why would that why oh man

0:27:39 Lydia: Get it. Yeah, huh? Huh? It

0:27:51 Heath: It's a hot button mogadishu oh